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pcpatrick 07-21-2014 12:01 PM

DEN/PHX base
 
* Any advise which regional to go with if my end goal is to be either DEN or PHX based? Sorry, I know this may open a can of worms... I'm considering Sky West, RAH, Mesa, or anything else that could get me there in reasonable time... I've read the threads and there seems to be a lot of debate over who can expect to hold what where and when and for who. Any newer inside advice would be greatly appreciated!

-A confused corporate pilot

deltajuliet 07-21-2014 12:16 PM

SkyWest has both DEN and PHX hubs, so that seems obvious. They may not be in Phoenix indefinitely, but I hear Denver is relatively junior.

Mesa has Phoenix, and it'll be expanding its operations there. It's currently the most senior base, but that could be changing - or at least becoming easier to hold - following additional US/AmericanUAL flying. Estimates to hold Phoenix range from a few months to a year. Some people have suggested it could be right out of IOE by the end of the year.

Don't know much about Republic's operations.

FaceBiter 07-21-2014 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1688638)
SkyWest has both DEN and PHX hubs, so that seems obvious. They may not be in Phoenix indefinitely, but I hear Denver is relatively junior.

Mesa has Phoenix, and it'll be expanding its operations there. It's currently the most senior base, but that could be changing - or at least becoming easier to hold - following additional US/AmericanUAL flying. Estimates to hold a Phoenix range from a few months to a year. Some people have suggested it could be right out of IOE by the end of the year.

Don't know much about Republic's operations.

Where did you get your crystal ball?

Xdashdriver 07-21-2014 12:46 PM

Republic has Denver on the DH8 but my understanding is it is full with '13 hires so you could be on reserve for a while unless movement picks up.


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WhoCares 07-21-2014 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by pcpatrick (Post 1688631)
* Any advise which regional to go with if my end goal is to be either DEN or PHX based? Sorry, I know this may open a can of worms... I'm considering Sky West, RAH, Mesa, or anything else that could get me there in reasonable time... I've read the threads and there seems to be a lot of debate over who can expect to hold what where and when and for who. Any newer inside advice would be greatly appreciated!

-A confused corporate pilot

Go to Compass. Unless you want to be a junior FO in DEN/PHX for the next 5 years.





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deltajuliet 07-21-2014 09:16 PM

I'll just mention it because it's relevant. New base awards were announced today at Mesa; some guys were awarded Phoenix after just three months.

VanDriver208 07-22-2014 05:31 AM

Didn't Gojet just announce a DEN base? Is that going to go senior? As for Mesa, I've been here just about a year and I'll be PHX based next month. The last standing bid just awarded another 25 pilots into PHX for September.

rcfd13 07-22-2014 07:24 AM

At Skywest DEN is pretty junior and quick to hold a line (relative to other bases). PHX is senior. The most junior FO in PHX is around 2 years.

sqwkvfr 07-22-2014 08:18 PM

DEN/PHX base
 
If you want DEN, PHX, anything that is easily commutable from PHX, or schedules that are even remotely commutable, RAH should not be anywhere on your RADAR screen. RAH stubbornly and steadfastly refuses to do anything in the western half of the country, and neither the Q or the Q DEN base were in RAH's game plan.

If you'd like to move to Columbus, Indianapolis, Louisville, Pittsburgh, or Newark, then RAH should be at the top of your list.

.....and if anyone is seriously wanting the RAH Newark Shuttle America base, stay right where you are for a bit.

Vwaste 07-24-2014 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 1689103)
Didn't Gojet just announce a DEN base? Is that going to go senior?

GoJet did announce a DEN base set to open in Oct. The thinking is that it will be senior but who knows. Even if it is, you would still probably get based there faster then at Skywest.

prior121 07-24-2014 08:04 AM

A new hire at Mesa can hold Phx right out of training.

8ballfreight 07-24-2014 08:21 AM

And nobody knows how exactly the dice will fall post merger when it comes to hubs.
That is pure wild card action.

deltajuliet 07-24-2014 08:34 AM

AA has a five-year commitment to keeping a Phoenix hub, I think. Mesa's the obvious contractor there.

FaceBiter 07-24-2014 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1690718)
AA has a five-year commitment to keeping a Phoenix hub, I think. Mesa's the obvious contractor there.

Sounds rock solid.

ELOHEL

FaceBiter 07-24-2014 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Vwaste (Post 1690668)
GoJet did announce a DEN base set to open in Oct. The thinking is that it will be senior but who knows. Even if it is, you would still probably get based there faster then at Skywest.


Que? You can be bro'in it up in DEN within a few months at SKW, and you wont have the GoJet stain on the resume. Sounds pretty sikk to me.

deltajuliet 07-24-2014 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1690772)
Sounds rock solid.

ELOHEL

These are all reasonable, educated predictions. Just like...

7/11

Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1681965)
As for getting Phoenix based, while its exact amount of expansion isn't firmly known more spots should open with each bid. Along with some new hires requesting East coast bases and a small amount of PHX attrition, holding PHX is a long shot for a new hire (though anecdotally not impossible) but realistic in 2-5 months. However, pilots displaced from ORD and going to PHX instead will have an adverse effect on junior pilots trying for Phoenix.

7/21

Mesa has Phoenix, and it'll be expanding its operations there. It's currently the most senior base, but that could be changing - or at least becoming easier to hold - following additional US/AmericanUAL flying. Estimates to hold Phoenix range from a few months to a year. Some people have suggested it could be right out of IOE by the end of the year.
facebiter:

Where did you get your crystal ball?
Me, 8 hours later:

I'll just mention it because it's relevant. New base awards were announced today at Mesa; some guys were awarded Phoenix after just three months.
So your condescension is unneeded. Thanks.

FaceBiter 07-24-2014 11:38 AM

I'm sorry I hurt your feeling. 1,000 apologies.

*brohug*

Jvw700 07-24-2014 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1690922)
I'm sorry I hurt your feeling. 1,000 apologies.

*brohug*

Hold off on DJ until he gets 6months on the line! As a new hire it's nothin but good news and the company can do no wrong! We've all had that stage I think...


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