Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1705878)

8K total time and 5K PIC (Just PIC, not turbine PIC) seemed to be the magic numbers, but they still weigh other factors. He did say as time goes on it will continue to drop to meet supply.

Didn't seem like flight time was the total factor. Apparently they hired a guy with 2K total time, but he was an F-18 guy, military academy graduate....clearly qualified.

Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1705964)

Yikes, thats alot of total time. If all three majors use this criteria that really hurts the "get in, upgrade quick, get out" crowd. If hired at 1500 TT you're still looking at >8 years at the regional you choose flying ~800 hours a year. Like they said, as time goes on that number is likely to drop, but for now thats quite a commitment to a regional airline.

Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1705878)

8K total time and 5K PIC (Just PIC, not turbine PIC) seemed to be the magic numbers, but they still weigh other factors. He did say as time goes on it will continue to drop to meet supply.

Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1705878)

8K total time and 5K PIC (Just PIC, not turbine PIC) seemed to be the magic numbers, but they still weigh other factors. He did say as time goes on it will continue to drop to meet supply.

Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1705878)

seem like flight time was the total factor. Apparently they hired a guy with 2K total time, but he was an F-18 guy, military academy graduate....clearly qualified.

Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1706038)

Many moons ago, they hired 500TT pilots. Now you have to do community service.

This industry is a joke. Glad I have few years left.

Originally Posted by gredenko (Post 1706129)

This is pure conjecture on PBSG's part...those numbers were never disclosed by any United people at the FFD open house. The algorithm is proprietary and would never be revealed publicly.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1706159)

That's what they told me in my 1 by 1 interview yesterday. 8k/5k PiC is the average of people hired at United last year.

Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1706185)

I did a M&G early this year. At that time, I was told the "average civilian RJ pilot" (wink wink) had north of 9k TT, in the 4k TPIC range.

Pre 9/11, the "average" regional guy (wink wink) was around 4kTT with about 1500TPIC as the "competitive" number, as well as usually 2 type ratings.



When comparing TT amongst a civ and mil pilot, it's an apples to bowling balls comparison. ESPECIALLY if it's single seat/tactical jet. And actually, 2K puts a guy that almost middle of the pack for that peer group. Doesn't matter if that 2k included the sortie conversion or not.



That was a looooooong time ago. And the 350 FW/PIC allowed them A LOT of flexibility in who they hired. It also gave them flexibility to help out in casting a wider net, especially as it related to the after effects of a lawsuit. And keep in mind, those "500TT" pilots made up a small number of ANY new hire class. Just like the 2500TT RJ FO does NOW. SURE, you'll hear about them getting hired. But for RIGHT HERE, and RIGHT NOW, it makes up a small quantity in any given OTS/new hire class.



See above on the numbers I was told, vs. what PBSG was told, etc. But probably not too far off the mark. AGAIN, those are an "average" (wink wink).



See above, everybody seems to hear different numbers, but not too far different.

Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1706221)

Given these TT numbers, I wonder how many perspective pilots would still chase this job. If someone had told me it would take ~12 years to go from flight instructor > RJ pilot > legacy there is no way I would have started this career.