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View Poll Results: Should Regional Airlines Flatten Pay Scales
Yes, and I am a Regional Airline Captain
10
6.02%
Yes, and I am a Regional Airline First Officer
39
23.49%
Yes, and I am a Prospective Regional Airline Pilot
7
4.22%
Yes, and I am a Major Airline Pilot
11
6.63%
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No, and I am a Regional Airline Captain
29
17.47%
No, and I am a Regional Airline First Officer
36
21.69%
No, and I am a Prospective Regional Airline Pilot
1
0.60%
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22
13.25%
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3.01%
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Should Regional Airlines Flatten Pay Scales

Old 08-29-2014, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
There's just so much wrong with this kind of thinking.

Captains and FOs have the same training. They have the same type ratings. They have the same ATP certificates. The physical safety of both is equally at risk. Both have an equal responsibility for the safety of the passengers (FOs can kill everyone on board just the same as a captain can).

Captains put their good name and record on the line much more than FOs? How is that?? FOs put their records and certificates on the line just the same. So often both the captain AND the FO get fired and/or violated for incidents and accidents.

I realized a long time ago that captains do not earn their seats, as you suggest. If that was true, then how do you explain some regional captains upgrading in 18 months while others don't make it to the left seat for 8 years? Did the 8 year FO perform so poorly that it took him nearly 5 times longer to earn what the other guy did? It's simply a matter of luck and timing when someone is able to upgrade.

The pay scale disparity is completely asinine. You mentioned capitalism as if it's a factor; free market capitalism is no where to be found in unionized airline pilot pay scales. Companies hand over a certain amount of money to the whole pilot group, and unions divide up the money in a very artificial, anti free-market type of system.
There is no hope for you....you can't fix stupid.
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Old 08-29-2014, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes View Post
There is no hope for you....you can't fix stupid.
He is clearly a case of someone who doesn't get it. Sounds like a "know it all" FO type. He will quickly figure it out once he upgrades and has to fly with inexperienced new hires.
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Originally Posted by Delta1067 View Post
He is clearly a case of someone who doesn't get it. Sounds like a "know it all" FO type. He will quickly figure it out once he upgrades and has to fly with inexperienced new hires.
Yup, 7+ year FOs don't get it. Your spoon is more silver than ERAU grads. I'm sure you can look Mesaba guys in the face who had flow and not project superiority.

Many friends are career FOs thus far that had NWA jobs until XJ ALPA rolled over for the 108.
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
Yup, 7+ year FOs don't get it. Your spoon is more silver than ERAU grads. I'm sure you can look Mesaba guys in the face who had flow and not project superiority.

Many friends are career FOs thus far that had NWA jobs until XJ ALPA rolled over for the 108.
Says the guy who doesn't think RJ Captains deserve $70K per year. Keep up that entitlement attitude and keep blaming ALPA. Oh, and keep patting your self on the back for saving the day from when your CA's keep screwing up And speaking of "superiority", most of your posts here reek of a superiority complex on your part. Just saying
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
Yup, 7+ year FOs don't get it. Your spoon is more silver than ERAU grads. I'm sure you can look Mesaba guys in the face who had flow and not project superiority.

Many friends are career FOs thus far that had NWA jobs until XJ ALPA rolled over for the 108.






Too bad Eastern Airlines isn't still around, you and Anderson could be first in line to cross...
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:46 PM
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Downgraded captains at 9E still make captain pay. So, Delta management thinks they should be paid the same, sometimes.
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Old 08-30-2014, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
As far as responsibility, violations come in pairs, and I've had to save many hapless lifers from getting ME violated.
I was a rj captain for a lot of years. Skygod FO's did not make the list of things I miss about it.
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
As far as responsibility, violations come in pairs, and I've had to save many hapless lifers from getting ME violated.
Oh... you must be this guy...

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Or this guy; binky and all:

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=_Q5FdzHaOuE
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Might want to retry that... "video doesn't exist".
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