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blaine 08-25-2014 12:09 PM

International Commuting
 
I'm thinking of commuting between Bogota Colombia and Houston. Does anyone have experience doing this? Is it possible? Input?

Bumbaclot 08-25-2014 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by blaine (Post 1712446)
I'm thinking of commuting between Bogota Colombia and Houston. Does anyone have experience doing this? Is it possible? Input?

Yeah, the shuttle america F.O. that recently got arrested after landing for being a coke mule.:D

http://buzzpo.com/airline-pilot-arre...rugs-back-u-s/

freezingflyboy 08-25-2014 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by blaine (Post 1712446)
I'm thinking of commuting between Bogota Colombia and Houston. Does anyone have experience doing this? Is it possible? Input?

Know of at least one FO and one CA that do that same commute (one might have been Medillin). One had done Columbia to both EWR and to IAH. Both said it was very doable and not that expensive. I always ask about departure taxes in places I've never been but I don't recall it being outrageous. Also know of a few others that commute from various places in Mexico. Consensus seems to be that the only time you may run into trouble is around Christmas time when the flights to/from Latin American are at their fullest. Hopes it helps!

blaine 08-25-2014 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 1712454)
Know of at least one FO and one CA that do that same commute (one might have been Medillin). One had done Columbia to both EWR and to IAH. Both said it was very doable and not that expensive. I always ask about departure taxes in places I've never been but I don't recall it being outrageous. Also know of a few others that commute from various places in Mexico. Consensus seems to be that the only time you may run into trouble is around Christmas time when the flights to/from Latin American are at their fullest. Hopes it helps!

That helps a lot. Thanks for your input!

Firsttimeflyer 08-25-2014 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bumbaclot (Post 1712450)
Yeah, the shuttle america F.O. that recently got arrested after landing for being a coke mule.:D

Airline Pilot Arrested Smuggling Drugs Back to U.S. - BuzzPo


Wow. Unbelievable

OnCenterline 08-25-2014 01:32 PM

I commute from the U.S. to the Pacific. The hitch with international commuting is that you need to pay particular attention to the number of flight options, as they tend to vary more than domestic. Also, some carriers require 24 hours notice for international jumpseating, and maybe some other hoops.

You need to know what your options are for international flights.

blaine 08-25-2014 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by OnCenterline (Post 1712501)
I commute from the U.S. to the Pacific. The hitch with international commuting is that you need to pay particular attention to the number of flight options, as they tend to vary more than domestic. Also, some carriers require 24 hours notice for international jumpseating, and maybe some other hoops.

You need to know what your options are for international flights.

I think that might be my biggest concern. I need to make sure I am able to get on the flights and that there are multiple options available. I'm nervous about what immigrations will think about me commuting. I guess I'll know more soon.

RI830 08-25-2014 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by blaine (Post 1712446)
I'm thinking of commuting between Bogota Colombia and Houston. Does anyone have experience doing this? Is it possible? Input?

Good luck with that! Sounds tiring and expensive.

Do some serious research and enjoy if it works!

LostInPA 08-25-2014 05:20 PM

blaine, keep in mind that you'll be paying taxes each time you nonrev internationally. Definitely figure that into your cost planning based on your company's benefits.

freezingflyboy 08-25-2014 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by blaine (Post 1712615)
I think that might be my biggest concern. I need to make sure I am able to get on the flights and that there are multiple options available. I'm nervous about what immigrations will think about me commuting. I guess I'll know more soon.

Never heard of anyone having any problems with it whatsoever. Sign up for Global Entry and be done with it. Best $100 you'll ever spend as an international commuter. The guys I mentioned earlier even talked about two-legging it through Mexico and Panama with no problems. More expensive, yes but options. It's all about your planning. As was mentioned before, trying to travel internationally and listing requirements will limit your options somewhat as will international jumpseat agreements (such as American and their stingy international jumpseat rules).

freezingflyboy 08-25-2014 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by LostInPA (Post 1712635)
blaine, keep in mind that you'll be paying taxes each time you nonrev internationally. Definitely figure that into your cost planning based on your company's benefits.

I know it seems ridiculous to pay $30-50 each week to get to work, but the guys I have known that do it say that is chump change compared to the lifestyle they can afford on FO pay in some of these places. (Yes you read that right, FIRST OFFICER 'PAY' at a REGIONAL).

I could see it getting a little spendy when you start throwing some ZEDs or ID90s in your back pocket for a rainy day, but that sounds like it would really be a once in a while backup plan.

Yazzoo 08-25-2014 08:05 PM

I'm sure it's possible, I know an AAL pilot with one family in Texas and another family in Columbia!

blaine 08-25-2014 10:27 PM

Thanks guys. My fiancee is from Colombia and will likely find it easier to get a job there straight out of engineering school. We think about a year of experience there will be the key to landing a permanent job in the petroleum industry in the US. At that point we will be able to set up shop in Houston (base) and there will be no more commuting and QOL will improve a lot. It will likely only be for about a one year. I'll check our Global Entry tomorrow. Anything to make the process more doable will be welcomed. I also agree that the better cost of living will make any immigration fees almost a non issue. We'll see...

OnCenterline 08-25-2014 10:33 PM

Immigration isn't going to care one iota. There are business travelers that come and go several times a month.

As for Global Entry, it's one of the best deals going. Definitely do it.

blaine 08-26-2014 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by OnCenterline (Post 1712811)
Immigration isn't going to care one iota. There are business travelers that come and go several times a month.

As for Global Entry, it's one of the best deals going. Definitely do it.

Do you know what the departure tax is. I was there in March but forget what I paid. I wonder if there is any way around paying every time.

skypine27 08-26-2014 02:32 AM

More than a few FDX guys commute from Mem To central and South America.

It's doable but it really depends most on what the schedules are like at your company.

chitolin 08-26-2014 05:15 AM

Colombia departure tax
 
Departure tax out of Colombia is $38, unless your stay has been less than 60 days. In that case you have to go make a huge line in an office where they stamp your passport with the exemption. (it was about 40 minutes long the last time I was there).

harvick4 08-26-2014 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by OnCenterline (Post 1712501)
I commute from the U.S. to the Pacific. The hitch with international commuting is that you need to pay particular attention to the number of flight options, as they tend to vary more than domestic. Also, some carriers require 24 hours notice for international jumpseating, and maybe some other hoops.

You need to know what your options are for international flights.

Which carriers are these, I'd like to know for future reference.

blaine 08-26-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by chitolin (Post 1712869)
Departure tax out of Colombia is $38, unless your stay has been less than 60 days. In that case you have to go make a huge line in an office where they stamp your passport with the exemption. (it was about 40 minutes long the last time I was there).


Yup, I remember now. No tax under 60 days. I'd never be there for that long at a time so it looks like I'll not pay a tax. However, I do wonder how long it will take before they start seeing me as more than a tourist. I might call the embassy and ask a few questions.

OnCenterline 08-26-2014 02:11 PM

Gents,
ALPA provides a pretty good JS guide on the website that you can download. When it comes to the particulars of international travel, my suggestion is to start with your own carriers Travel Department, followed by a phone call/email to your union's JS rep.

As for taxes, plan on swiping a credit card (or paying cash if that is the protocol, as it is in some places).

Hope that helps...

freezingflyboy 08-26-2014 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by blaine (Post 1713132)
Yup, I remember now. No tax under 60 days. I'd never be there for that long at a time so it looks like I'll not pay a tax. However, I do wonder how long it will take before they start seeing me as more than a tourist. I might call the embassy and ask a few questions.

As was said before, as far as Customs and Immigration are concerned no body cares. You're not the first guy to live in one country and work in another and to travel between the two several times a month. I'd be more concerned about doing your taxes come April 15th (or whenever you file in Columbia).

Note: Assuming you are a US citizen/permanent resident.

Thedude 08-26-2014 06:56 PM

Commuting internationally sucks.
I was on paid tickets and had a guaranteed seat and it still sucked.


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