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Crazy Canuck 08-27-2014 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by Datsun (Post 1713484)
Consider the CA vs FO compensation. At Jazz, the CA makes about 41% more than the the FO across the board. At US Regionals, the CA/FO compensation difference is not a flat percentage. It starts at about 65% and peaks at about 91%.

US Regionals need to get real with the pay. It's going to get to the point where they're going to have to hire illegal immgrants to fly their RJ's because there's no way US Citizens are going to continue to put up with this crap. Someone has to be the FO and they shouldn't have to suffer because of it.

That's the thing. Look at the trends in the two countries. The US has been in the basement for a long time, and due to supply and demand things are finally starting*** to get better.

In Canada, the downward trend has just started and it will go on for a long time before it gets better.

Crazy Canuck 08-27-2014 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1713536)
MSP vs IAH: Texas has no state income tax, and the sales tax is about the same. I figured living in Houston and commuting to MSP, I was better off paying for two apartments and keeping TX as my home or record than moving up north. Basically, if I moved to the land of 10000 lakes, I needed to earn about 25% more gross to equal my Texas standard of living.

Oh, and I don't need a permit to fly model airplanes in Houston, but in Eagan, MN, I was for a short time taken into custody for flying a model (Cox .049 powered control line airplane) without a permit. (NO, I am NOT kidding).

What are you taking into consideration for your cost of living? I'm considering doing something similar. Or considering moving to IAH when I can hold it from MSP.

deltajuliet 08-27-2014 10:13 AM

Is IAH a decent place to live? Could you raise a family there and would it have to be in the suburbs?

Paid2fly 08-27-2014 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1713825)
Is IAH a decent place to live? Could you raise a family there and would it have to be in the suburbs?










Not on Mesa wages...

deltajuliet 08-27-2014 11:26 PM

Dude, these passive aggressive jabs at Mesa don't contribute anything. We get it, you don't like Mesa. Fine. Don't work there. I've politely addressed your concerns in another thread, and while I understand and respect that you won't agree, you don't have to take a perfectly innocent and unrelated question as an opportunity to further rail against a company you don't like. It sidetracks productive conversation and turns every well intentioned thread into a shouting match about who has the better B scale.

If it was just once or twice, I'd ignore this post and move on, but this is frequent, among others on the board too.


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1713379)
Since you chose to work for Mesa, please feel more than free to still consider yourself a "wh*re in this business"!


Wow they are hiring people who haven't completed / passed the ATP written?

Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1699930)
As long as they answer their phones...



Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1709915)
Need to recharge your phone to get the job offer?


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1676030)
Or, answering the phone?


They posted some pics on FB of inaugural flights in the E175.

Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1676030)
So shiny...!:eek:



Thanks all.


What are you talking about?


A friend at SKW just Facebooked me the same suggestion. I wonder if it's TSO approved.

Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1675412)
"Friends" don't let friends work for J.O.!



Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1713379)
The few, the proud, the... desperate?


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1708674)
Seriously? You're probably tied for "worst" out there with Gojets, Lakes, and Silver...


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1678534)
Maybe it's just for the joy and prestige of having J.O. as their fearless leader?:eek:


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1708669)
You think that contract violations are something new for JO?

Fellow pilots, it's a free country, say what you like, but the negative assaults on one another are unwarranted; show the same common courtesy and professionalism you would to one another as if you were face to face.

FlyJSH 08-28-2014 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 1713564)
What are you taking into consideration for your cost of living? I'm considering doing something similar. Or considering moving to IAH when I can hold it from MSP.

At 75,000, state income tax will be about 5,000. Food is about 25 percent higher. Housing I looked at was about 15 percent higher.

Commuting is one leg, but a long one.

Paid2fly 08-28-2014 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1714325)
Dude, these passive aggressive jabs at Mesa don't contribute anything. We get it, you don't like Mesa. Fine. Don't work there. I've politely addressed your concerns in another thread, and while I understand and respect that you won't agree, you don't have to take a perfectly innocent and unrelated question as an opportunity to further rail against a company you don't like. It sidetracks productive conversation and turns every well intentioned thread into a shouting match about who has the better B scale.

If it was just once or twice, I'd ignore this post and move on, but this is frequent, among others on the board too.












Fellow pilots, it's a free country, say what you like, but the negative assaults on one another are unwarranted; show the same common courtesy and professionalism you would to one another as if you were face to face.





With the pilots at Envoy, Expressjet, Silver, and Republic all voting NO to any further concessions in this profession, we can all stand with them by not helping the bottom feeders staff their flying! If they can't staff, they'll have to raise pay and benefits, it really is that simple(nothing personal). Everyone is hiring, so why not at least be selective and choose those airlines known for better treatment and pay?

rcfd13 08-28-2014 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 1713563)
That's the thing. Look at the trends in the two countries. The US has been in the basement for a long time, and due to supply and demand things are finally starting*** to get better.

In Canada, the downward trend has just started and it will go on for a long time before it gets better.

Things aren't getting better in the US. In just the last year look at the contracts Endeavor, PSA and now possibly PDT have passed. Republic, XJT and Envoy voted down bad contracts they were proposed.

If anything it's trending for the worse in the US. Not the better. The only regional to get a pay raise in the last 5 years as far as I know is Commutair.


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