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WarpSpeed 09-10-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1724049)
The only government regulation that would make any sense whatsoever, would be a hard cap on lifer pay. There's no reason a lifer should make north of 80k while an FO makes 20k. CA pay should top out around 50 with FO pay around 40. That is a much more fair distribution of the shrinking pie.:cool:

So, you don't think ANY regional pilot is worth a fair living g wage for the job they perform....nice...

Beech90 09-10-2014 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1724085)
Shirley you can't be serious?

Who said you had to take 100k in loans in order to start at a 20k regional job? Did you do your homework beforehand? You could just as well have gotten a part time job (or a full time job) and paid-as-you-go. Private, Instrument, Commercial-Single, and CFI could all have been obtained this way. There are ways to start a regional pilot career. Not everyone starts off with a 100k debt with a loan. And since you took a loan, you are responsible for paying it off. You must have known what regional airlines paid before you started? Why do you expect tax payers to bail you out for your decisions?

+1. I paid all my training working as a minimum wage cook. I didn't go to some big 141 school. I'm debt free, and in a better position than most people I know.

toomanyrjs 09-10-2014 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by WarpSpeed (Post 1724101)
So, you don't think ANY regional pilot is worth a fair living g wage for the job they perform....nice...

40-50k a year is still well above the median salary and more than a "livable" wage for what is essentially an entry level job.

WarpSpeed 09-10-2014 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1724134)
40-50k a year is still well above the median salary and more than a "livable" wage for what is essentially an entry level job.

Captain at a regional is entry level? Why don't you ask px what they think? I guess a surgeon gets an entry level salary too.

GogglesPisano 09-10-2014 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 1724079)
Unions control the industry and are the very opposite of free market.

That would explain the job losses and pay cuts and loss of pensions we've experienced this past decade. Those greedy unions. Arrr:mad:

(Unions are as much a part of the free market as joint ventures and mergers -- they're an attempt to restrict the supply of something, ie: labor.)

toomanyrjs 09-10-2014 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by WarpSpeed (Post 1724146)
Captain at a regional is entry level? Why don't you ask px what they think? I guess a surgeon gets an entry level salary too.

That's just a goofy comparison. A surgeon has well over a decade of advanced education and countless hours of training. Anyone with a GED and a willingness to sign for a 100k loan can go from zero to RJ hero in under 2 years.

AirbusFO 09-10-2014 12:35 PM

I am PRAYING that this is just a guy stirring the pot...I know there are a few people that think the same way as the OP and frankly, their ignorance of how the real world works and their perceived relationship between Businesses, Individuals and Government scares me....

MoovenUP 09-10-2014 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by airbusfo (Post 1724260)
i am praying that this is just a guy stirring the pot...i know there are a few people that think the same way as the op and frankly, their ignorance of how the real world works and their perceived relationship between businesses, individuals and government scares me....


plus 100000000000000000000000000000

BlueMoon 09-10-2014 01:05 PM

I assume if you are going to forgive student loan debt, that all of us that paid our obligation will get a refund?

The government if anything needs to make student loans harder to get! Why do you think college tuition has sky rocketed in the past decade? Student loans creating a huge supply of students who borrow the cost of tuition.

Also, We are far from the only profession that exits school with crippling student loan debt and low pay. I have a few doctor friends that are swimming in enough student loan debt to purchase a nice 4 bedroom house and the pay isn't necessarily high for them either.

The pay will eventually correct itself in the airline biz, it just takes time. And by time, I mean years, not months. It doesn't just change because you need it too.

yeah sure 09-10-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1724187)
That's just a goofy comparison. A surgeon has well over a decade of advanced education and countless hours of training. Anyone with a GED and a willingness to sign for a 100k loan can go from zero to RJ hero in under 2 years.

I have more lives depending on me as captain in one day than any surgeon.


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