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BoardPilot 01-06-2007 11:15 AM

Career at a Regional?
 
It seems that almost all the posts I read involve putting in some time at a regional and then getting out just as soon as one is qualified for a major. Has anyone considered staying at a regional? I know the majors pay a lot better, but say you enjoy the people you work with, get a base and equipment that are good, a career at a regional wouldn't be all that bad, right? Maybe work your way up into management, make some of the changes that everyone here always says management needs to make?

MikeB525 01-06-2007 11:26 AM

From what I understand that's theoretically correct. The perfect example to illustrate both sides is Comair. They WERE a great place with good pay and excellent work rules and benefits, and they had alot of career people. But now they're being ******ed up the @$$ by Daddy Delta. Some even say they could be gone in a few years (but I hope not). The problem with a career at a regional is not even the salary, it's the instability caused by the whole regional versus regional thing. For a long time Comair was great and stable and then the stuff hit the fan.

BoilerUP 01-06-2007 11:33 AM

There are plenty of career pilots flying at Comair, ASA, Eagle, Mesaba, Expressjet, Air Wisconsin, etc...and every person in that category each has their own reasoning.

Bottom line is this - unless you fly under your own code, you are subject to the whims of the mothership...and as long as there are companies and pilots willing to do the same job for less, there will never be any guaranteed stability.

BoardPilot 01-06-2007 11:56 AM

I just saw some of the previous posts on this subject. As is everything, it's up to personal preference I guess. The issues of company stability are definately worth considering, but look what happened to the majors. There is always the threat of furlough and job loss, no matter where you work or who you work for. Only those far enough up the seniority list survived the furloughs after 9/11, and who's to say when the next crisis will come?

I'll just have to decide what's right for me. It is good to see the different viewpoints that everyone brings up.

Flyby1206 01-07-2007 05:53 PM

In the past some of the big attractions at a major were pensions, big paychecks (200k+), and really amazing quality of life. Now the majors have lost pensions (mostly), taken huge paycuts, and are being forced to work more which reduces the QOL a bit.

FL410 01-07-2007 06:02 PM

I know a pilot at Horizon that has been there 8-9 years and is making $90,000 - $80,000. Going to Alaska would be a fairly big paycut for him but after while it would definently be a smart move.

HotMamaPilot 01-08-2007 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 99774)
There are plenty of career pilots flying at Comair, ASA, Eagle, Mesaba, Expressjet, Air Wisconsin, etc...and every person in that category each has their own reasoning.

Bottom line is this - unless you fly under your own code, you are subject to the whims of the mothership...and as long as there are companies and pilots willing to do the same job for less, there will never be any guaranteed stability.

ya, complacency and underachievment

JoeyMeatballs 01-08-2007 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 100467)
ya, complacency and underachievment

Lets all just get a sex change then we all can go to UPS

rickair7777 01-08-2007 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100475)
Lets all just get a sex change then we all can go to UPS


I'm waiting for "gay" to be approved as an affirmative action category...

I can be "gay" to qualify for a job at FEDEX...I'll check the box, and you can't prove otherwise. If they don't like the whole being married to a woman thing, I'll just change my mailing address to my crash pad :rolleyes:

HotMamaPilot 01-08-2007 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100475)
Lets all just get a sex change then we all can go to UPS

i heard that there is a trans testicle at usair. I guess they have an agreement that "she" will never upgrade.:confused:

BoilerUP 01-08-2007 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 100467)
ya, complacency and underachievment

Classy...real classy.:rolleyes:

DMP9679 01-08-2007 06:48 PM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it
 
That would be a good reason to stay anywhere! If you love your job(that's what the goal is in life is it not), and you find yourself guessing at reasons why you should leave, then stay put. You should feel free to do with your life as you choose, always think about yourself first, Lord knows that everyone else is doing the same thing at the employer level.

HotMamaPilot 01-09-2007 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 100702)
Classy...real classy.:rolleyes:

Oh, I forgot whom I was speaking to: The judge of humanity:rolleyes:

flyerNy 01-09-2007 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 100467)
ya, complacency and underachievment

Wow, that is a horrible thing to say, everyone has different requirements as to what they want to do and where they are comfortable. I don't know you but if that is what you truly believe, you need to re-evaluate your inner egotistic self.

HotMamaPilot 01-09-2007 06:28 AM

what was your goal when you took your first flight lesson? was it to work for sub par wages and be disrespected by most? if so, by all means...stay at a regional.

JoeyMeatballs 01-09-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 100812)
what was your goal when you took your first flight lesson? was it to work for sub par wages and be disrespected by most? if so, by all means...stay at a regional.

Jesus lady, you are off your rocker. I don't know what regional you worked at, or if you even needed too, but Expressjet, CHQ, AWAC, and some others treat their pilots with a lot of respect, and pay us well, 60k for a first year as a captain is pretty good. I swear you would think that someone in your position would be grateful for where you are, but all you seem to do is come on to the "regional" forum and tell us how we are "losers" for being here. I used to think you were a *****, but now I just feel sorry for you, to think you have a job flying a 767 and you are still miserable, hell I guess I would be too if I had a job that I did'nt deserve and everybody knew it :)

bassslayer 01-09-2007 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100815)
Jesus lady, you are off your rocker. I don't know what regional you worked at, or if you even needed too, but Expressjet, CHQ, AWAC, and some others treat their pilots with a lot of respect, and pay us well, 60k for a first year as a captain is pretty good. I swear you would think that someone in your position would be grateful for where you are, but all you seem to do is come on to the "regional" forum and tell us how we are "losers" for being here. I used to think you were a *****, but now I just feel sorry for you, to think you have a job flying a 767 and you are still miserable, hell I guess I would be too if I had a job that I did'nt deserve and everybody knew it :)

She can't get any respect from her peers. By peers, I mean heavy jet pilots. I'm sure everyone she flys with realizes she is a loser and so does she. That's why she comes into the REGIONAL forum and talks trash. She finally found a place she can feel superior. You guys keep falling for her flame bait. Ignore her posts and she'll go away.

Freightpuppy 01-09-2007 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100475)
Lets all just get a sex change then we all can go to UPS

You'll need more than a sex change Saab. You will actually have to be able to fly an aircraft efficiently and not think Saab systems are hard. You're out of luck pal. Teeee heeee

G-Dog 01-10-2007 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100815)
Jesus lady, you are off your rocker. I don't know what regional you worked at, or if you even needed too, but Expressjet, CHQ, AWAC, and some others treat their pilots with a lot of respect, and pay us well, 60k for a first year as a captain is pretty good. I swear you would think that someone in your position would be grateful for where you are, but all you seem to do is come on to the "regional" forum and tell us how we are "losers" for being here. I used to think you were a *****, but now I just feel sorry for you, to think you have a job flying a 767 and you are still miserable, hell I guess I would be too if I had a job that I did'nt deserve and everybody knew it :)

Attention all Gojet pilots. Email Hotmomma and thank her. She has taken the heat off you guys on this fourm, for now. She seems to be the one getting bashed more than you guys now.

Hotmomma, if you change your tone and they way you send you message, you may get somewhere.

Radial Song 02-07-2007 06:36 AM

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saab2000 02-07-2007 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 100467)
ya, complacency and underachievment


This b**** is just a troll. Don't feed the trolls. She NEVER contributes anything worth reading.


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