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SeamusTheHound 09-15-2014 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by jumppilot71 (Post 1727783)
According to this "article". Read #2. I ran across this and thought it would be interesting until I read,

"You may go to an airline website and buy a ticket, pull up to its desk at the curb, and get onto an airplane that has a similar name painted on it, but half the time, you’re really on a regional airline. The regionals aren’t held to the same safety standards as the majors: Their pilots aren’t required to have as much training and experience, and the public doesn’t know that." -Captain at a major airline

Where do people get this crap, especially a captain at a major airline, if that really came from a captain at a major?

Read more: 13+ Things Your Pilot Won't Tell You | Reader's Digest

Do you think that the major airlines sub-contract out their flying to the regionals because the regional folks are simply nice people? Follow the money (or lack of it)!

sevenforseven 09-15-2014 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by bedrock (Post 1727805)
Ever heard of Pinnacle 3701 crash? Ever heard of any major US airline crew pulling such a lame azzz stunt?

You mean like landing a 767 on a taxiway?

80ktsClamp 09-15-2014 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by sevenforseven (Post 1727861)
You mean like landing a 767 on a taxiway?

you probably should read the CVR of 3701 before trying to make that comparison...

jumppilot71 09-15-2014 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1727815)
Uh oh...you just opened the door to people listing every bone headed thing a major a pilot has done....heeeere we go. :eek:

I was about to say. I guarantee you for every regional incident you can recall, we can do the same with the majors, if not twice as much. It isn't a competition and this thread wasn't meant for it to be.

Bonanzer 09-15-2014 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1727790)
Who flys 8 legs a day?

Never flown 8 but 7 leg days were not uncommon at chq pre 117.

mosteam3985 09-15-2014 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1727869)
you probably should read the CVR of 3701 before trying to make that comparison...


That's a good point but to play devils advocate, there was a pretty idiotic happening with SWA at LaGuardia not long ago and it's pretty tough to compare that CVR with any other because..... no one is allowed to see it.

Screw ups happen everywhere - even unimaginably crazy ones.

Mesabah 09-15-2014 08:17 PM

Yeah, you're not going to talk about how great your replacement workers are.

That said, stupid happens at every airline. At NWA we had a crew disciplined for flying over lake Michigan at less than 100 feet, at 300 kts+ on a repo flight once.

ShyGuy 09-15-2014 09:23 PM


You mean like landing a 767 on a taxiway?
Depends. I doubt they were calling each other "dudes" on the CVR.



That's a good point but to play devils advocate, there was a pretty idiotic happening with SWA at LaGuardia not long ago and it's pretty tough to compare that CVR with any other because..... no one is allowed to see it.

Screw ups happen everywhere - even unimaginably crazy ones.
Is the NTSB not going to release a transcript of the CVR of SWA at LGA? I thought they were required to. Does it fall under FOIA?

ShyGuy 09-15-2014 09:31 PM

I think it is a fair and accurate statement to say regional airlines aren't as safe. It doesn't mean they are UNsafe, it just means it just isn't as safe as the legacy/majors. A huge part of the reason already mentioned is the far greater number of cycles regional pilots go through each day. 4-6 legs per day is common whereas the mainline counterpart may only do 1-3. The likeliness of an accident goes for the higher frequency of takeoff/landings and that is found moreso in the regionals. And of course the accident stats speak for themselves for at least this century. Since 2000, the major pax carriers had one AS MD80 go down, (excluding 9/11 due to terrorist - on purpose), and the AA A300. That's over 14 years so far. The regional comparison on the other hand includes nearly three times as many fatal crashes over the same period. Air Midwest at CLT, Corporate Air at Kirksville, Ocean Chalk near FLL, Comair at LEX, Colgan at BUF. Those are off the top of my head, I may have missed some.

Packrat 09-15-2014 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1727944)
Is the NTSB not going to release a transcript of the CVR of SWA at LGA? I thought they were required to. Does it fall under FOIA?

The thing about the FOIA...someone has to ask for it.


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