Originally Posted by Slick111
(Post 1728435)
I blame ALPA.
Only ALPA can stop the whipsaw. But they don't. The line pilot is ALPA. The reps the line pilots elect are ALPA. The Mec officers the reps elect are ALPA. Therefore we are ALPA. So if ALPa is to blame, that is the same as saying we are to blame. Only a line pilot, in this case an ALPA line pilot can ratify these things. Once we can recognize the problem, us, then we can start thinking of how to fix it. |
Originally Posted by Nevets
(Post 1728490)
The line pilot is ALPA. The reps the line pilots elect are ALPA. The Mec officers the reps elect are ALPA. Therefore we are ALPA. So if ALPa is to blame, that is the same as saying we are to blame. Only a line pilot, in this case an ALPA line pilot can ratify these things. Once we can recognize the problem, us, then we can start thinking of how to fix it.
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Scabs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
(Post 1728413)
Well, bye bye Envoy. Should have took the deal when you had the chance.
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
(Post 1728598)
Scabs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
(Post 1728352)
What gains did you guys get in your soon-to-be-new contract that justifies the passing of this TA?
What we gave up? Higher insurance premiums. I expect my insurance to go from around $100-150 to around $250-300. In addition we accrue less sick time. It went from 4hrs a month to 3.5 so a loss of 6hrs per year. Agreement is valid for 10 years. Union and company are allowed to bring 5 items for negotiation in both 2018 and 2022. |
Tricked: PDT keeping turboprops anyway
Originally Posted by higgi8f6
(Post 1728623)
What did PDT gain? All pilots get a pay raise. It may not be a good raise and other carriers may receive more but we are moving to uncharted areas for PDT.
YX current year 1 on EJet. ( this is a 2007 CBA rate). $22.95/hr Year 4. $36.62/hr YX rejected TA Rate. $26.00/hr Year 4. $42.42/hr PDT (accepted) new jet rate. $24.00/hr Year 4. $39.10/hr YX rejected 10 year rate. $49.42/hr PDT accepted 10 yr rate. $43.28/hr To be clear PDT accepted a 76 seat jet rate in 2014 that is $1.05/hr more than YX 50 seat jet rate from 2007 year one, and $2.48 more than 2007 50 seat rate year 4. They also locked themselves into a 10 year salary cap that is $6.00/hr less than the rates YX rejected because they were 2011 rates for the size aircraft. No matter what PDT pilots claim, they lowered the bar to get Ejets they may/ may not get, and for Flow they may or may not ever see. For the new guys, I wouldn't recommend YX with a 7 year old contract so I definitely would think twice about PDT. You are locking into what will become the worst contract available in the next 2-4 years all for a promise of quick upgrade and flow, you may/may not see. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
(Post 1728413)
Well, bye bye Envoy. Should have took the deal when you had the chance.
Glass houses ect. |
Originally Posted by SenecaII
(Post 1728635)
Here's what they really gained ( I hope all new pilots looking at PDT pay attention here )
YX current year 1 on EJet. ( this is a 2007 CBA rate). $22.95/hr Year 4. $36.62/hr YX rejected TA Rate. $26.00/hr Year 4. $42.42/hr PDT (accepted) new jet rate. $24.00/hr Year 4. $39.10/hr YX rejected 10 year rate. $49.42/hr PDT accepted 10 yr rate. $43.28/hr To be clear PDT accepted a 76 seat jet rate in 2014 that is $1.05/hr more than YX 50 seat jet rate from 2007 year one, and $2.48 more than 2007 50 seat rate year 4. They also locked themselves into a 10 year salary cap that is $6.00/hr less than the rates YX rejected because they were 2011 rates for the size aircraft. No matter what PDT pilots claim, they lowered the bar to get Ejets they may/ may not get, and for Flow they may or may not ever see. For the new guys, I wouldn't recommend YX with a 7 year old contract so I definitely would think twice about PDT. You are locking into what will become the worst contract available in the next 2-4 years all for a promise of quick upgrade and flow, you may/may not see. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
PDT now has the lowest 175 rates of any carrier. Great job guys.
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