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FAA brilliance, to upgrade now 121 PIC DOES NOT count toward the 1000hrs only SIC? but 135 PIC passenger and 91 PIC fractional count???? WHAT???


http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf

You'll have to explain further your interpretation because that isn't how I read the legal interpretation.
Matter of fact - it says that if you were serving as a -121 PIC on the date before the rule went into effect (and if you didn't yet have 1,000 hrs of -121 time total) then you are grandfathered in - pretty smart move.

I think what may be confusing you in the paper is the scenario where the person HAD served as a -121 PIC, was not employed as a -121 PIC (or in any -121 operation) at the time of the rule implementation, and now the prior flight time will not count towards the 1,000 hrs required for upgrade. In that case - yes - it seems that it is a start over for that person that left the airline business.

More concerning though (to me of course) is to find out that my P135 PIC time will not count towards my 1,000 -121 time for when I bail to the airlines! :D
Or not.

That interpretation is insane, as far as I can tell. It makes no sense at all.

Goes to prove my and a lot of other people's point that if you can't stand the answer, DON'T ASK THE QUESTION.

So a Lakes 1900 FO gets 1000 hours in the right seat and he's legal to upgrade to 121 captain. But a 135 freight 1900 captain comes in with 2500 TPIC, and he isn't legal to be captain. Have to love the FAA

what if you didn't decide to "leave the industry" and were furloughed? how does SIC time count and PIC doesn't, the July 31st was to grandfather Capts who were already upgraded but didn't have 1000

Actually it says that the pilot HAD served more than 1,000 hours as a 121 PIC. And if he was employed by a 121 carrier ON July 31, 2013, he would be covered. But if he was NOT employed by a 121 carrier on July 31, 2013, it would NOT be covered. That makes no common sense to me.

That is the insane part and it makes no sense.

How do you have -121 PIC without any -121 SIC? Also, with no one hiring OTS Captains, how many honestly feel they won't get 1000 SIC before upgrading?

Valid point, but beside the point. The idiocy is the ruling itself.

Also, given the current conditions, some of the folks at the regionals could be in that situation in the not too distant future.

I agree that it says that. You had to be employed on the date of implementation. It seems to punish the person who left the industry. Furloughed? You are still employed right. Why does it punish the person who left the industry two years earlier and now wants to come back a few years later - I don't know. You'd have to ask the alphabet soup of organizations that made the rule. Most here have pointed the finger solely at the FAA - but forget that representatives from every aviation organization were part of that rule making.

KSCessnaDriver - seems to me that they made some distinction with pax carrying being held to a higher esteem than freight hauling doesn't it?

it's happening at PSA