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PeanutButter 01-08-2007 05:49 AM

what's the latest at AWAC?
 
i would like to ask all the AWAC pilots in the forum if they know the latest of the company. what are the prospectives for the future now that the Midwest flying is gone? is AWAC interested in aquiring more flying? what other rumors are going around in Appleton?

Thanks!

fosters 01-08-2007 06:16 AM

AWAC is always interested in acquiring more flying, they just can't seem to win any RFP's. They haven't been able to win one since, well, 2003, and that one was short lived because UAL canceled it. I personally would say the future is bleak.

JoeyMeatballs 01-08-2007 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by fosters (Post 100420)
AWAC is always interested in acquiring more flying, they just can't seem to win any RFP's. They haven't been able to win one since, well, 2003, and that one was short lived because UAL canceled it. I personally would say the future is bleak.

Its not bleak, its becuase they arent going to lower themselves like CHQ and MESA, and GOJETS.

P.S. I am referring to CHQ's 70 seat pay, so dont waste your time attacking me for my negativity, if only CHQ pilots had the same attitude I had they would be getting paid more!

fosters 01-08-2007 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100434)
Its not bleak, its becuase they arent going to lower themselves like CHQ ...

... I am referring to CHQ's 70 seat pay,


Chautauqua's 70 seat pay is ~$6/hr more than the AWAC rate for 70 seaters.

JoeyMeatballs 01-08-2007 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by fosters (Post 100440)
Chautauqua's 70 seat pay is ~$6/hr more than the AWAC rate for 70 seaters.

They don't fly 70 seaters anymore

fosters 01-08-2007 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100473)
They don't fly 70 seaters anymore

Anymore? AWAC never did. But if they did, their 70 seat CA pay rate is, on average, $6/hr less then what Republic/Chautauqua/Shuttle America's is.

In your previous post, you inferred that the future of AWAC is bleak because of how low Republic's (Chautuaqua holding company) pay is. Republic winning 70 seat RFP's isn't tied to hourly pilot pay, so stop directing your knee-jerk anger at the pilot group.

groovinaviator 01-08-2007 09:00 AM

The Offical Latest at AWAC
 
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groovinaviator 01-08-2007 09:00 AM

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fosters 01-08-2007 09:06 AM

nothing to see here, move along

groovinaviator 01-08-2007 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by fosters (Post 100495)
That was posted internally inside a private company. I'd delete it if I were you. Or are you the same jack@ss that posted the Midwest flying RFP results on flightinfo (allowing all the companies still in competition to know that AWAC was also in the running).

...and no, I am not that Jack@ss that you speak of... it's already pathetic enough i spend the amount of time I do on this forum... i definitely don't or ever have spent time on flightinfo.

Thanks for being (mostly) nice about it.

DMEarc 01-08-2007 09:35 AM

If AWAC wants to win RFPs, they need to get into the 70 seat market. US Airways will give them flying, they just need the airplanes.

JoeyMeatballs 01-08-2007 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by fosters (Post 100485)
Anymore? AWAC never did. But if they did, their 70 seat CA pay rate is, on average, $6/hr less then what Republic/Chautauqua/Shuttle America's is.

In your previous post, you inferred that the future of AWAC is bleak because of how low Republic's (Chautuaqua holding company) pay is. Republic winning 70 seat RFP's isn't tied to hourly pilot pay, so stop directing your knee-jerk anger at the pilot group.

No thats not what I meant, they don't fly 70 seaters so their 70 seat payrate doesnt mean anything

fosters 01-08-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 100522)
No thats not what I meant, they don't fly 70 seaters so their 70 seat payrate doesnt mean anything

If AWAC had 70 seaters, that would be the rate paid to fly those airplanes. You're not making any sense here.

You say (paraphrased) "AWAC's future is bleak because Republic's pay rate on the 70 seater is so low"

I say "AWAC's 70 seat rate is less than Republic's"

You say "AWAC's 70 seat rate is moot because they don't operate it"

In your relentless blabber, you've failed to make any sense. Let me boil it down like this: When a company bids on RFP's, they price out what each of the components of their operation would cost. Even though AWAC doesn't operate 70 seat aircraft, doesn't mean they don't have a pay rate for them. That pay rate is what goes into the RFP price structure. And, I dare say, that pay rate isn't what is preventing the company from losing the RFP's. Clear enough?

Jetrecruiter 01-08-2007 10:49 AM

AWAC is not getting the RFP's because companies like CHQ and Skywest can afford to bid at much lower cost than they can because of the large volume of flying that those company's have offsets a lot of other costs. AWAC does not have that ability to underbid the under bidders.

fosters 01-08-2007 11:01 AM

Jetrecruiter, congrats to you for actually having a rational thought process.

P.S. I like your sig.


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