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BEWELCH 01-08-2007 07:18 AM

121 Training?
 
What Is The Hardest Part Of Airline Training? What Is With All The Washouts, What Makes It So Hard?

freezingflyboy 01-08-2007 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by BEWELCH (Post 100447)
What Is The Hardest Part Of Airline Training? What Is With All The Washouts, What Makes It So Hard?

The firehose effect. If you are new to a jet, 121 flying (having an FOM and CFM to operate under) or instrument procedures then your head is going to spin. :D

bintynogin 01-08-2007 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by BEWELCH (Post 100447)
What Is The Hardest Part Of Airline Training? What Is With All The Washouts, What Makes It So Hard?

121 training is not all that hard. It's not for everybody!

JoeyMeatballs 01-08-2007 08:36 AM

Its trying to understand the bug picture, get a basic understanding of the system, not learning how ot build it? Been through two 121 ground schools, the SAAB & the ERJ 2nd time around was a breeze, 1st time was really tough for me, but thats becuase my system instructor at Colgan was more interested in the 737 he used to teach at AMerican hahah

POPA 01-08-2007 08:56 AM

What's with you always capitalizing each word?

G-Dog 01-08-2007 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 100488)
What's with you always capitalizing each word?

I never saw it till I saw this post. Go figure.

The hardest part about training? Staying up in systems class.:D

BEWELCH 01-08-2007 01:30 PM

Popa
 
"what's With You Capitalizing Each Word?"


Why Do You Care????

POPA 01-08-2007 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by BEWELCH (Post 100595)
"what's With You Capitalizing Each Word?"


Why Do You Care????

Just wondering why you'd go out of your way to do it like that.

s10an 01-08-2007 02:07 PM

Guess I can ask in this thread.

Does anyone have any feedback with http://www.145studyguide.com/

If not.. Are there any others study guides for erj systems out there???

POPA 01-08-2007 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by s10an (Post 100604)
Guess I can ask in this thread.

Does anyone have any feedback with http://www.145studyguide.com/

If not.. Are there any others study guides for erj systems out there???

Why would you pay for the same information you'll learn in ground?

s10an 01-08-2007 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 100617)
Why would you pay for the same information you'll learn in ground?

You are not really answering my question, but it seems to be more of an interactive setup when it comes to systems.

I dont want to pay for it, but if there are tools that helps me understand something better, i would consider it.

Same thing going through all ratings.. You can get by with very few books, but some choose to pay for more books and learn more.:rolleyes:

Sanchez 01-08-2007 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 100617)
Why would you pay for the same information you'll learn in ground?

Agreed.

Just pay attention in class, and consider yourself lucky to have a facilitator. Some airlines use computer base training that you have to do on your own.

This was my first time through, the training itself was easy. It was the amount of information you have to learn that makes it a bit of challenge, but again, if I got through it, so can you.

N6724G 01-08-2007 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 100448)
The firehose effect. If you are new to a jet, 121 flying (having an FOM and CFM to operate under) or instrument procedures then your head is going to spin. :D

Whats FOM and CFM?

JoeyMeatballs 01-08-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 100685)
Whats FOM and CFM?

Flight Operation Manual, and Company Flight Manual I could be wrong but 99% sure, **** I work there too hehe

Fox 1 02-07-2007 05:42 PM

1) Don't know how to organize themselves
2) Can't digest lots of info
3) Underestimate the focus required
4) Goof off during training because they have always been the life of the party (why stop now?)
5) Lack of commitment
6) Man got no skills
7) Expect it to be spoon fed (If "Daddy" paid for you to go to an expensive flight school, pay special attention to this one.)

It is rare for the person who is it giving their all to fail.

Former B727 ground instructor/check airman

Just $0.02

RJ85FO 02-07-2007 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by BEWELCH (Post 100447)
What Is The Hardest Part Of Airline Training? What Is With All The Washouts, What Makes It So Hard?

You have to be an actor to be sucessful in airline training. The Captain and F/O are just parts in a play. You will perform the same play over and over again. The motions are the same, the lines are the same. If you can't act, you cannot survive airline training. You have to know your lines cold, you have to know your flows cold.

It takes an enormous amount of practice, practice, pratice and an enormous amount of discipline to make yourself practice.

It may sound funny, but you have to practice your flows and calls while being distracted. You have to pracice them in the shower, in the car, while eating, while watching a movie. You have to have your spouse or significant other or parner be able to say "Go-Around" or "Smoke" or "Cargo Fire" in the middle of a conversation and you have to be able to launch into the memory items, flow and calls without hesitation.

With that advice, you will find that sim sessions and checkrides are just routine.

Fox 1 02-21-2007 03:42 PM

[quote=RJ85FO;114594]It may sound funny, but you have to practice your flows and calls while being distracted. You have to pracice them in the shower, in the car, while eating, while watching a movie. You have to have your spouse or significant other or parner be able to say "Go-Around" or "Smoke" or "Cargo Fire" in the middle of a conversation and you have to be able to launch into the memory items, flow and calls without hesitation.
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YES!! YES!! Listen to Obi-Wan , you should!!


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