Mine got torn off by the lav door on the CRJ. With the pin gone I gave them to one of the kids that came up front before the flight. So that sparked an idea. I grabbed a handful, ripped the pins off, and hand them out. At least someone leaves the plane happy.

Used to be you could tell who the pilot was just by looking, wings or not...but nowdays we probably do need the wings to avoid confusion with bellhops, FA's, customer assist, TSA, etc.

RAPED

I see what you did there.

Yes. Yes we turn our badges around because we are so ashamed to be seen. I actually stuff my down the front of my shirt because I am so ashamed to walk around the terminal and be seen by other really cool regional pilots.

Now back to the regularly scheduled programming....

Some RAH FAs wear wings on their sweaters lol. Pilots dont unless they wear the blazer/jacket

They all should be, it's part of their required uniform and correct, pilots jacket only...

I find it funny that S5 are allowed to wear them on shirt, but RW isn't.


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Sometimes guys forget to put their wings back on after laundry.

I have always felt that a pilot shirt with no wings looks sloppy and incomplete.

I have always felt That wings On a shirt looks silly.

I like the wings on my shirt because it draws attention away from all the pen stains I hope my zipper tie covers up.

Whether or not we can agree the wings looks stupid, I can stand by the door after a flight saying bye to the passengers in a tuxedo or old Phoenix Suns Starter pullover and that won't change the odds some asshat from the back will say "that was a terrible landing".

Its just nice to see some employees taking pride in how they present themselves. I look like a slob :D until I wear the jacket. But that's what the company gave me for my uniform.... a tent for a shirt and......well, at least the pants are decent.
Some FAs look better turned out than the captain/FO.

Hard to take pride in your job when you're making 38k a year and the company tells you even that is too much.

I notice legacy airlines where wings on shirt and jacket. Old United even had two different sizes, one for shirt and one for jacket......and the hat was required back then. JetBlue looks as if it's sewed into the shirt? is that what it is?

Some regionals can't even get pilots to wear pants let alone wings ;)

I second that.

Don't get married to the job, then. Quit. You did not know what the payscale was when you signed on? Did you run the numbers? Or did you expect a handout?

Whenever I see threads like this one turn into several pages of nonsense, I can't help but think "man some of these guys need to get laid..."

Seriously...a thread about wings doesn't need six pages.

I am quitting, only a month left. Enjoy your "dream job" and the 40k a year paychecks.

Congratulations. Im happy for you. Being an airline pilot is not a dream job for me. Being a corporate pilot was closer to that reality. Now Im looking for stability since I have to think about my family. I have adjusted my expectations after being in the "flying" industry for more than 15 years.

I will seriously consider what you did, in a few years. I do understand it is a lottery system and I may not win.

Your bitterness shines through your posts, hopefully it does not manifest itself when you deal with those around you........

Good luck

and Bless God :p

Just curious where you are leaving too? What field?

He probably didn't expect anything other than what was promised when we all started at the regionals "a couple years right seat, 1,000 hrs in the left and every legacy will be drooling for you"... 7 years later their upgrade is finally about to happen...

Back to the regularly scheduled "my regional is better than yours because we have more shiny wings"... My opinion is some wings (smaller) fit well on shirts and others (the bigger kind) probably weigh the shirt down for its size and wouldn't fit well... Because of this I suppose different regionals have adopted different policies that fit their uniforms best...

I believe BzzT is going to be the new chief pilot at PSA.

Yep, how'd you know?

Bwaaaahahahahaha!

So he got married to the job eh?
There's always a choice......

Hey, I believe strongly in the advice to never take a job you can't walk away from... I just have no other skills nor can I afford to walk away from the job.. so yea, that seems to be how many of us get married to our job..

One less thing to put on the shirt..I vote for no wings or eppies

Thread from the dead, but closest to on topic I could find...

I'm curious as to what point in training civilian pilots earn the right to wear wings? It took a year and a half in the Navy, I'm assuming it'll be less on the other side.

I'm also curious as to what the design is, I've gathered that each airline has a different one.

Without looking like a tool IMO when your finish your ATP and work for an airline. A lot of eye rolling if some guy is wearing wings around his flight school because he just got his private or commercial.

I think it's silly to even try to qualify who gets wings and who doesn't. If you need a silly piece of metal to justify your skill...

If you are issued wings as a part of your uniform, and required to wear them, then you wear them.

Nothing makes a real pilot laugh more than the guy at a flight school or FBO wearing "private pilot" wings or epaulettes. Even universities that wear them as part of their flight training makes the wearer a tool.

Airline/Military pilots wear wings. Some corporate guys (sort of). Thats about it.

Always wear your wings and your hat when you fly. Nothing makes you look more like a real aviator then your airline hat with a pare of David&Clarks over the top of them.

If it makes you feel good do it. Lol I never wear my issued wings on my shirt. It just gets in the way of the shoulder harness

Yeah, the only time I've had to deal with that at a flight school was for contract work. Airlines would have their cadets wearing uniforms from day one, and they pay the bills.

I felt ridiculous wearing epaullets and climbing out of a Cessna 152, but the decision was way above me. Still, most of us wore the sweater over it all, which worked well in a poorly sealed Cessna.

TSA doesn't have wings. Unless you were a cqfo from xjet then we do.

You can't think of the wings as being symbolic of an aviation achievement, like you probably do of military wings.

Instead, they're simply symbolic of your employment at a particular shop. When you are given them varies between where you work.

At the regional airline I worked at, I was given the wings unceremoniously by my the examiner after my LOE simulator session at the very end of training.

At the major I work at, I was given them after only a few weeks of non-flying indoctrination training (basically still at the beginning of training -- I hadn't even see the inside of a simulator yet) in a fancy-ish formal ceremony that family/friends are invited to attend.

Overall, it is simply a uniform item that socially has less value and meaning than in the military.

Private pilots, or pilots earning advanced ratings, aren't "real pilots"?

Classy.

When I had 50 hours and a PPL, I did not consider myself a real pilot. It wasn't until I was signing my name for a jet with paying passengers in the back that I felt like a real pilot. Even when I was flying a turboprop on the west coast full of rubber dog doodoo, I didn't consider myself to be a "real" pilot yet. I still had way too much to learn to be that cocky.

I still have a lot to learn, but I do consider myself a real pilot.

Maybe for a military guy, it was something different - a stage when they issued you wings that you earned.

But that is just me.

Good for you Hacker! I didn't know you had left our shop! Sadly though, your story just reinforces the Dickensesque "Tale of Two Cities" reality that exists in the industry for doing the same damn job. Glad you made it out.

Yes, thanks. I had a great time there with the folks I flew with, and really appreciate the opportunity I had to fly there and learn the 121 business. I'm fond of saying, "I loved every day except payday!"

That being said, working at a career destination is better in every way imaginable. Hopefully you're able to make your own escape soon!