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Darant 12-01-2014 08:26 AM

Logging Time
 
Question:

I'm new to airline ops and have always logged each day's total time and legs on one line of the logbook.

Do you log each leg that you fly separately or just each days flight as one entry.

missingbite 12-01-2014 08:30 AM

Totally up to you. I log leg by leg but I am very Type A. My wife logs day by day and a lot of the guys I fly with haven't logged anything in YEARS!

FaceBiter 12-01-2014 08:31 AM

I just log one entry for the entire year.

chrisreedrules 12-01-2014 08:40 AM

i log leg by leg.

Xdashdriver 12-01-2014 08:58 AM

Leg by leg

JohnnyDingus 12-01-2014 09:00 AM

Logging Time
 
I hit update on my program and it uploads leg by leg from flica. It's nice.

Firsttimeflyer 12-01-2014 10:12 AM

Day by day. Too much to write leg by leg when you do 20-28 legs in a 4 day trip.

Xdashdriver 12-01-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus (Post 1773721)
I hit update on my program and it uploads leg by leg from flica. It's nice.

What program are you using?

rickair7777 12-01-2014 11:04 AM

When I was doing paper logbooks, I logged daily totals for 121.

When I switched to electronic, I was able to import data from my company's software, which was of course by leg so I switched back to leg-by-leg.

I doubt anybody cares too much either way, but I would recommend an electronic logbook...simplifies massive 121 data entry and helps catch errors. Also the filters greatly simplifies filling out complex airline applications. If you end applying to majors after ten years at a regional , you'll really want electronic. The sooner you switch, the easier it will be to do the data entry.

JohnnyDingus 12-01-2014 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 1773792)
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus


I hit update on my program and it uploads leg by leg from flica. It's nice.




What program are you using?


MccPilotlog. It's a European manufacturer. $80-90 for the upgraded version. No annual fees. Numerous upgrades and new features. Airline synchronization, duty time BS, user friendly, and available for PC, Mac, iPhone, and other different smart phones

AtlCSIP 12-01-2014 05:35 PM

1 entry per day, unless I do back to back CDO's, then it's leg by leg.

SiShane 12-01-2014 05:54 PM

Leg by leg on LogTen Pro....too easy!

80ktsClamp 12-01-2014 06:13 PM

When I was at the regionals, I did leg by leg... in a Jepp paper logbook.

I also had to walk uphill through snow each way, but that's neither here nor there.

mooney 12-01-2014 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1774159)
When I was at the regionals, I did leg by leg... in a Jepp paper logbook.

I also had to walk uphill through snow each way, but that's neither here nor there.

Barefoot and pregnant?

Darant 12-01-2014 08:50 PM

Thanks guys,

I have logbook pro already and have used it for years. I'm thinking its leg by leg for me.

Darant 12-02-2014 07:36 AM

Follow up question-

Say your flying a A CRJ or an ERJ - Do you log say the CRJ 700 or 900 seperatly or a 170 to 175 etc. Would there be any reason to do so?

JetPilot6589 12-14-2014 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1774159)
When I was at the regionals, I did leg by leg... in a Jepp paper logbook.

I also had to walk uphill through snow each way, but that's neither here nor there.


And now you do it as precisely as time allows, in minutes instead of tenths of an hour!

dc10guy 12-15-2014 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Darant (Post 1774525)
Follow up question-

Say your flying a A CRJ or an ERJ - Do you log say the CRJ 700 or 900 seperatly or a 170 to 175 etc. Would there be any reason to do so?

Yea. Because ones a heavy.

deltajuliet 12-15-2014 07:19 AM

Actually a good question, Darant. And does anyone bother with logging Instrument approaches for IFR currency? Many have said AQP covers that in a 121 environment without the need to log them, but a few Captains I've met weren't so sure.

Xdashdriver 01-05-2015 04:01 PM

Logging Time
 
I log them to maintain my personal part 91 IFR currency. AQP maintains your currency only for 121/91 done for the certificate holder and then only if you are a CA.

61.57(e)(2)This section does not apply to a pilot in command who is employed by a part 119 certificate holder authorized to conduct operations under part 121 when the pilot is engaged in a flight operation under parts 91 and 121 for that certificate holder if the pilot in command is in compliance with §§121.435 or 121.436, as applicable, and §121.439 of this chapter.


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prex8390 01-05-2015 04:03 PM

how do you know how much to log, hobbs? is there like a billing sheet you fill out or just write in on scratch paper with the trip info etc?

Greg Bockelman 01-05-2015 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1783718)
Actually a good question, Darant. And does anyone bother with logging Instrument approaches for IFR currency? Many have said AQP covers that in a 121 environment without the need to log them, but a few Captains I've met weren't so sure.

As long as you are flying for your 121 carrier, the recurrent training covers all currency issues. If you fly part 91 on the side, that is a whole different issue.

AtlCSIP 01-05-2015 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1783718)
Actually a good question, Darant. And does anyone bother with logging Instrument approaches for IFR currency? Many have said AQP covers that in a 121 environment without the need to log them, but a few Captains I've met weren't so sure.

Delta's addendum on AirlineApps asks for the number of approaches in the last 6 and 12 months, so I log them all and report them on the addendum every time I update, which is about twice per month.

rickair7777 01-05-2015 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 1796802)
Delta's addendum on AirlineApps asks for the number of approaches in the last 6 and 12 months, so I log them all and report them on the addendum every time I update, which is about twice per month.


Yes, log approaches. Odds are you won't do that many of them since the new FAA standard for logging actual approaches is all the way down to mins.

Somebody just had to ask the question a couple years ago, so FAA HQ issued a legal interpretation...

You can use them for 91 currency too (not needed for 121, including 91 operations conducted for the airline).

Salukipilot4590 01-05-2015 07:37 PM

Leg by leg, approach by approach.

Don't be lazy, it pays off.


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