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Old 11-28-2014, 06:23 AM
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Here are a few articles from the last 6 months about what the pilot shortage is really doing to regional airlines. It's not really increasing pay, but it sure is cutting jobs and airline service...

SkyWest to divest Embraer EMB-120 aircraft
SkyWest to divest Embraer EMB-120 aircraft | Airframes content from ATWOnline

Great Lakes pulls out of Telluride
Telluride Daily Planet > Archives > News > Great Lakes pulls out of Telluride

Great Lakes Slashes Service to Small Cities, Blames Pilot Shortage
Great Lakes Slashes Service to Small Cities, Blames Pilot Shortage | The Cranky Flier

SkyWest is leaving Chico
SkyWest is leaving Chico - Redding

United reduces service from Roanoke to Dulles airport
United reduces service from Roanoke to Dulles airport | Local News - WDBJ7.com Central and Southwest VA

ExpressJet Tells United It Needs to Reduce Express Flying Due to Pilot Shortage
ExpressJet Tells United It Needs to Reduce Express Flying Due to Pilot Shortage | The Cranky Flier
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:12 AM
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I don't know if you know how this works but people aren't losing jobs (other than ground service).
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:16 AM
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"doing to regional airlines" being the operative phrase.

Regional airline service is diminishing in marginal markets while some regional airline payrolls shrink as fewer pilots are available and willing to work for regional airline-level compensation. On the flip side, major and national airlines are expanding service into small/medium-sized markets that were the exclusive domain of regional carriers for the last 13+ years and are growing their pilot headcount.
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:22 AM
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Simply the first burbles of the approaching tsunami lapping the shore. The smaller weaker regionals will be the first casualties and now it's starting to impact the larger ones. 12-18 months from now, it will be a full-blown crisis when the main wave slams into shore and then managements could throw all the money they have at it and still can't prevent it or stop it. It's too late now.

Many markets will lose service and others will have it significantly reduced. Due to the reduction is seats, airlines will be able to charge more and that coupled with cheap fuel should be good for profits. In about 5 years, that tsunami will hit the legacies, if nothing is done now. It takes years to seed a healthy pipeline and this disasterous wave has been 5 years in the making.

They'll **** it up for sure.
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by knobcrk View Post
There is no pilot shortage. If you've been to a job fair there's still some college intern that tells you to do some volunteer work to round out your resume. I guess I should go massage puppies an hour a week huh?
Really ?

I hear of regional airlines cold-calling off old applications.
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
I smell Embry riddle or ATP Flight School all over this guy.
ATP Flight School. My FO knows.
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:56 AM
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SKW recently made it clear that they would shrink before raising pilot pay. This was reported via a SAPA conference call.

Guess they're afraid that if they lock in a raise them be uncompetitive in the long run.
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All anyone cares is when the purported shortage will result in "pains" in the hiring at the majors.

Shortage because a regional CEO said one exists ? FAIL

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Old 11-28-2014, 08:10 AM
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(per RickAir) That's why I have trouble with all these claims there is a pilot shortage when you have tons of pilots sitting around. I left airlines in fact and have been cold-called by an airline maybe once, ever. The real story is they do not want to pay anything, and they are not calling anybody because they already know the answer is "no, I can make more at Home Depot".
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There is no shortage of pilots with ATPs in hand.

Just a lot of us can't or won't work for regional wages.
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