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Cgo John 12-16-2014 06:10 PM

How many are showing up for class?
 
Occationally I hear people saying that xx airline had a class of 10 this month and only 2 people showed up. Could everyone check on how many people are actually entering the class and report in?

prex8390 12-16-2014 06:12 PM

I hear Great Lakes has had several classes where no one shows up or most quit by the end of group school. Things along those lines etc.

pete2800 12-16-2014 06:14 PM

Horizon's classes have been full. There's always the very rare no-show or person that quits during training, but that's a small enough number to be considered an anomaly. The washout rate is also very low.

TheFly 12-16-2014 06:14 PM

It's gonna get real interesting next summer.

John2375 12-16-2014 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 1785054)
It's gonna get real interesting next summer.

Why is that?

TheFly 12-16-2014 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by John2375 (Post 1785076)
Why is that?

Summer loads, higher need for pilots. This is where the shortage AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL will most likely be felt. The supply of qualified pilots who can afford to work for an express carrier is drying up fast.

JohnnyDingus 12-16-2014 07:31 PM

How many are showing up for class?
 
PSA is pumping 35 +- a few every two weeks.

Xdashdriver 12-16-2014 08:08 PM

Mesa is putting 40-50 through each month, split into 2 classes.

Cgo John 12-16-2014 08:19 PM

I think this is good information for people. What % are moving from one regional to another? What % are new to flying? What about the others?

From where is Mesa getting 40 to 50 each month?

lakehouse 12-16-2014 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 1785123)
Mesa is putting 40-50 through each month, split into 2 classes.

This with psa is the song of 2014, it's a weird mentality but 2015 is going to be the rush to envoy and endeavor for mainline slots and flow Movement. This industry changes in a hat drop, today's ****hole is tomorrow's hot spot. And today's minute upgrade is tomorrow's bankruptcy, history proves this 9 times put off ten. It's why qol is what you pick in base and let it ride.

Beech90 12-16-2014 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 1785123)
Mesa is putting 40-50 through each month, split into 2 classes.

Is that expected to continue throughout 2015?

Not a flame post.

lakehouse 12-16-2014 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1785140)
Is that expected to continue throughout 2015?

Not a flame post.

Hahahahhha no, eagle and pinnacle, I mean endeavor and envoy are throwing fist fulls of cash and mainline slots at theirs new hires and current pilots, Mesa doesn't even have a fistful of cash..........

Xdashdriver 12-16-2014 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1785140)
Is that expected to continue throughout 2015?

Not a flame post.

Well it will need to be at least 20 a month until July or August when the E175 deliveries are done. Whether the CRJ hiring will start tapering off I don't know. I've moved up around 30 numbers since August, so there is a little attrition going on too.

flynavyj 12-16-2014 08:54 PM

The attrition is key - without it things go stagnant and without quick upgrades or a promise of movement to mainline people aren't overly happy to jump at the bit. I feel this is part of the reason everyone was screaming last summer than the sky was falling, but sure enough the "pilot shortage" seemed to be short lived...I can't wait to see if folks can staff moving forward, but I personally feel that with the exception of the folks who pay pennies, everyone else will staff "ok" this coming year.

MartinC08 12-16-2014 09:09 PM

If someone has a feb class, should they be worried about it being cancelled or displaced?

Xdashdriver 12-16-2014 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by MartinC08 (Post 1785158)
If someone has a feb class, should they be worried about it being cancelled or displaced?

At Mesa? No.

PilotGuy77 12-17-2014 03:59 AM

Why would you worry?

Scoop 12-17-2014 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by MartinC08 (Post 1785158)
If someone has a feb class, should they be worried about it being cancelled or displaced?


Cancelling a class because they can't hire enough? Reminds me of a popular bar that no one goes to anymore.................... because it is always too crowded.

Scoop :D


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