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Cruz5350 01-04-2015 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 1796184)
so an ex horizon crj? no idea where those are nowadays

Nobody is even flying those birds Cat III, ASA and SKW have a handful.

TheTransporter 01-04-2015 08:57 PM

The CRJ is Cat IIIa if you are a qualified pilot. Last I checked, none of the skywest or express jet pilots are. Takes a while to qualify 7000 pilots for 20 planes that might still have the HUD.

Snickers 01-04-2015 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by RB211 (Post 1796135)
It's just another ****ing airplane

I think your sarcasm detector is inop!

RB211 01-05-2015 04:55 AM

Mesa has a few 900's with Huds, although they are inop, and I think they came from Alitalia.

flyingreasemnky 01-05-2015 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1796183)
Nope Compass 170 or 175 don't remember which one my gf and I plus another non rev and I think his gf were bumped. I was shocked it was a T/O issue then again it was a warm day but still MDW-DTW is a quick hop.

I know Delta likes to load Compass up with mail and other cargo so they do get weight restricted. RAH never really gets cargo other than comat. I have never been weight restricted where I couldn't take everyone plus a jumpseater. I did one time have to burn fuel before takeoff so I could get the jumpseater on though. (The fuelers accidently tried to put an airbus fuel load on us and they told us to burn it off in the runup block.)

Senior Skipper 01-05-2015 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by thump (Post 1796172)
Were you on an E140/145? Sounds impossible on the E170/E175. The plane does LGA-EYW, CLT-EYW, and DCA-EYW. FYI, EYW is a 4800' runway.

Who does LGA-EYW on an RJ?!?:eek:

jetn67 01-07-2015 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1796176)
Cat II unless you find one that actually has the HUD installed.

You don't need a HUD if it has Autoland..

dfwflyboy 01-10-2015 07:23 AM

These went to PSA. supposedly PSA will staff for 30ish 700s. And now 24 900s. Good luck

tinman1 01-10-2015 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 1800246)
These went to PSA. supposedly PSA will staff for 30ish 700s. And now 24 900s. Good luck

Wasn't it already 30 900s and something like 47 700s before this order? Wonder where this flying is coming from.

air101 01-10-2015 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by tinman1 (Post 1800287)
Wasn't it already 30 900s and something like 47 700s before this order? Wonder where this flying is coming from.

There is nothing official about who ordered these jets, only conjecture at this point.

Should they go to PSA (or any other regional), which I am still skeptical about, the flying will just be replacing 50 seaters that are getting parked, albeit at reduced frequency.

FirstClass 01-10-2015 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by tinman1 (Post 1800287)
Wasn't it already 30 900s and something like 47 700s before this order? Wonder where this flying is coming from.

Precisely. 15 of the 30 already delivered. 3 per month on the 900s till June to finish them off, then the 47 700's start coming. After that, if there are still FO's somewhere left in the world, will likely get the majority of the 40 CRJ900 options.

soon2bfo 01-10-2015 11:24 AM

From what I understand the E170/175 isn't a stellar performer when it comes to hot/high conditions. I have heard that it goes often out restricted in DEN/SLC and Montana airports. Anybody know if this is true or not?

UnusualAttitude 01-10-2015 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by soon2bfo (Post 1800418)
From what I understand the E170/175 isn't a stellar performer when it comes to hot/high conditions. I have heard that it goes often out restricted in DEN/SLC and Montana airports. Anybody know if this is true or not?

I have flown it out of SLC and virtually all of the Montana airports and I have never seen it weight restricted. CPZ has a mod and MGTOW is 89000lbs on the 175. Not sure if any other operators are using this mod. Maybe everyone is, I just don't know.

UA

air101 01-10-2015 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by soon2bfo (Post 1800418)
From what I understand the E170/175 isn't a stellar performer when it comes to hot/high conditions. I have heard that it goes often out restricted in DEN/SLC and Montana airports. Anybody know if this is true or not?

This is correct... try to fly the thing full from DEN or SLC during the summer, on a longer route, and you'll be leaving quite a few behind... and yes even in a Compass jet.

PSASUX 01-10-2015 02:38 PM

I hear they are going to put some 175 stickers over the 900 stickers and give them to Envoy.

Geardownflaps30 01-10-2015 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by soon2bfo (Post 1800418)
From what I understand the E170/175 isn't a stellar performer when it comes to hot/high conditions. I have heard that it goes often out restricted in DEN/SLC and Montana airports. Anybody know if this is true or not?

Not true. Period.

Left one non rev behind once when it was 104 out. That's it.

Lou Reed 01-11-2015 08:11 AM

From SLC to FAR and to OMA when it was 35C out, had to leave 10 behind and then go sit on the tarmac and burn fuel. That's some density alt though....

air101 01-11-2015 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Lou Reed (Post 1800964)
From SLC to FAR and to OMA when it was 35C out, had to leave 10 behind and then go sit on the tarmac and burn fuel. That's some density alt though....

Yes. Back in the summer of 2012 I believe when Compass was doing some flying out of SLC, there were huge weight restrictions on the longer staged flights SLC-MSN/FAR/ORD etc... that's why Delta then decided to end the Compass flying in SLC, of course until the return at the end of 2013. On the shorter stage lengths its not a problem. The restriction is - second segment climb (thus reducing MTOW) - the CRJ9 sees it too on SLC-ORD, although its not as bad.

rickair7777 01-11-2015 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude (Post 1800422)
I have flown it out of SLC and virtually all of the Montana airports and I have never seen it weight restricted. CPZ has a mod and MGTOW is 89000lbs on the 175. Not sure if any other operators are using this mod. Maybe everyone is, I just don't know.

UA

Montana is not that far from SLC, so you don't need a huge fuel load.

GoHomeLeg 01-11-2015 09:21 PM

I just saw something that implies they MAY be going to RAH (a couple of our sdf pilots are getting trained on the CRJ). I have no idea why Republic would want them but it looks like I might be happening.

AlaskaBound 01-12-2015 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1800494)
This is correct... try to fly the thing full from DEN or SLC during the summer, on a longer route, and you'll be leaving quite a few behind... and yes even in a Compass jet.

You're so full of crap. This is not true. I fly the plane and I have never had to leave anyone behind due to weight restrictions in a high alt/hot day. We have the 89,000lbs mtow mod so i can't speak to other airlines and how they operate. Not only have I, myself, not had to leave anyone behind yet (SLC-Montana or wherever) no one I have talked to has had to do that either.

I am not going to say it's not impossible that, in the perfect scenario, there may be a time that some bags might need to be left behind. But it would be a very very rare occurrence.

air101 01-12-2015 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1801486)
You're so full of crap. This is not true. I fly the plane and I have never had to leave anyone behind due to weight restrictions in a high alt/hot day. We have the 89,000lbs mtow mod so i can't speak to other airlines and how they operate. Not only have I, myself, not had to leave anyone behind yet (SLC-Montana or wherever) no one I have talked to has had to do that either.

I am not going to say it's not impossible that, in the perfect scenario, there may be a time that some bags might need to be left behind. But it would be a very very rare occurrence.

Again, nobody said anything about SLC- Montana flights. Re-read. It was also a problem on LGA-DFW flights, so bad that Delta started blocking off seats so that they wouldn't have to bump people. And just this summer on SLC-FAR/OMA there were weight restrictions where yes people, not just bags, were left behind.

The mod has nothing to do with it. It's the climb performance, and second segment climb. You could have a MGTOW of 180,000, but if it can't meet the 2nd segment climb performance, than you're payload limited.

But, who really cares. Honestly. (now go ahead and say something snarky to get the last word in)

wmupilot85 01-12-2015 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1801521)
You could have a MGTOW of 180,000, but if it can't meet the 2nd segment climb performance, than you're payload limited.

But, who really cares. Honestly. (now go ahead and say something snarky to get the last word in)


then.

Sorry, I had to.

air101 01-12-2015 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 1801547)
then.

Sorry, I had to.

lol... no worries, would have done the same to someone else.

AluminumFoil 01-12-2015 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1801521)
Again, nobody said anything about SLC- Montana flights. Re-read. It was also a problem on LGA-DFW flights, so bad that Delta started blocking off seats so that they wouldn't have to bump people. And just this summer on SLC-FAR/OMA there were weight restrictions where yes people, not just bags, were left behind.

The mod has nothing to do with it. It's the climb performance, and second segment climb. You could have a MGTOW of 180,000, but if it can't meet the 2nd segment climb performance, than you're payload limited.

But, who really cares. Honestly. (now go ahead and say something snarky to get the last word in)

We have had to pull people and it is for climb perf. LGA - DFW/IAH in the winter, done the BNA fuel stops as well. Ive never personally seen it in SLC though but I wouldn't be surprised on those long segments. As Lou Reed pointed out, It does happen. It's just another airplane.

TalkTurkey 01-12-2015 05:48 PM

So how about those secret CRJs? Had a line check yesterday and the guy said Delta got them. I told him to quote the source and he couldn't. Then I kindly reminded him that delta still has 30 options. I've never observed any US carrier buy aircraft in a clandestine manner. Have they?

CBreezy 01-12-2015 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1802101)
So how about those secret CRJs? Had a line check yesterday and the guy said Delta got them. I told him to quote the source and he couldn't. Then I kindly reminded him that delta still has 30 options. I've never observed any US carrier buy aircraft in a clandestine manner. Have they?

I had a FA tell me, withe absolute conviction, that the Sony hack was done by a former disgruntled employee. Lesson being, don't trust rumors.

TalkTurkey 01-12-2015 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1802104)
I had a FA tell me, withe absolute conviction, that the Sony hack was done by a former disgruntled employee. Lesson being, don't trust rumors.

Indeed. Although I find it tasteless that a check airman would inject that during a line check.

block30 01-12-2015 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1802107)
Indeed. Although I find it tasteless that a check airman would inject that during a line check.

Meh, if a check airman wants to shoot the breeze, I say let 'em. Rumors is rumors, and the world continues to turn. :)

Captain Tony 01-13-2015 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1802107)
Indeed. Although I find it tasteless that a check airman would inject that during a line check.

Isn't that where most of the outlandish, yet baseless rumors come from, besides mechanics?

Kind of like the ExpressJet "Big December Announcement", lol?

CRJ900LR 01-15-2015 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1802246)
Isn't that where most of the outlandish, yet baseless rumors come from, besides mechanics?

Kind of like the ExpressJet "Big December Announcement", lol?


That announcement was huge!, never heard anything like it before. I'm surprised that the world didn't stop after it was made. :eek:


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