Copa Seeking Non Type Rated 737NG FOs 1000TT
 

Here's a good opportunity if anyone wants to be an expat and wants to get on with a major with 1000 TT.

http://www.aviationjobs.me/2015/01/b...anama.html?m=1

hmm, go down to panama with 1000 or stay in the usa and fly with a regional, i dont know what sounds worse

Free type rating, and expat salary for a few years until you have enough time to join a legacy....can't be too shabby...

just dont drink the water, dont want to come back and have to get a SODA for a missing leg before applying to delta

I chatted with one of their recruiters last year at a job fair. This job sounds terrible, hey were explaining you get around 11 days off a month and cannot commute to the US. She was dumbfounded when I told her I could hold 16-18 days off at a regional, commute and make almost the same money. She explained all the locals fly the 190 because the schedules are actually pretty decent. The 737 is pretty brutal. This is a SJSer dream.

They got gas stoves over yonder so you can boil those microbes away...

The 737 type is from Panama, you will have to invest money to convert t to FAA. Southwest won't look at you.

Copa Seeking Non Type Rated 737NG FOs 1000TT
 

You do have to pay $2500 for the atp over in panama and on second year pay at a regional it is comparable. and no commute and langauge can be a problem too. rent is pretty high $1000-1500 as told by an FO who is a friend. Again its good experience but QOL is somewhat better in States.

The bit about Southwest is true.
Also be prepared to be treated like crap from the locals and their version of the FAA.
I hear an all around bad place.

oh yeah, working in central america is a bad place?

Why?? Would you do this?????

The link on the site doesn't work. Have a buddy who has been with COPA for a few years now. Seems to be working out pretty good for him.

Copa Seeking Non Type Rated 737NG FOs 1000TT
 

No jumpseat / or / Cass , / Bad flight benefits / no bueno ....

the trips are turns, do not layover. so the 11 days are days off, but you are home in your own bed every night.

surf and food are awesome in Panama. The salary you get qualifies you for their retirement plan in Panama, you are somewhat a citizen i have heard, anyone know the details?

If I was in my early 20s and single? Heck yeah.

Sounds like a great opportunity for Lakers who are too impatient to wait for the upgrade :)

Do you have to move there or can you commute from Florida? Does anyone know?

Clearly, you didn't read the first two pages...

There's a similar thread on the International Forum.

A bunch of guys that applied back in October and haven't heard anything back since.

Expat salary really... Have you actually seen what they pay FOs?

We have an FO who was a CA at COPA. he commuted from Florida. The QOL was so much better here that it was worth it for him, even on first year ASA FO pay. By year 2 pay there wasn't even a question, and he is hispanic and was a Captain. Not to say it wouldn't or couldn't work out, but it probably won't be easy. Panama does not have to adhere to 117, so COPA still does 8 hour international overnights. Be careful.

It's actually expat job paid regional wages with worse QoL ...

True, you're working overseas, but COPA certainly does not pay anywhere close to "expat salary".

Does Copa still do the lie detector test during interview?

In the past, it wasn't a requirement for US citizens, but according to pprune and other sites, they now require it for all applicants.

Not sure how accurate the above info is, and I'm sure there are lots of things that have changed/constantly change.

What is it with airlines using more and more pseudoscience and otherwise debunked new age hiring practices?

You ever been there? The place is awesome, and full of expat Americans.

If I was in my early 20's and this was an opportunity right now, I'd take it in a second. Especially over flying for a regional.

A pilot there told me upgrade was 10 years... I don't know if that's hyperbole or not.

For an expat FO 10 years is realistic. Go as a CA or don't got at all.

Some airlines wants 500 on type (doesn't say PIC) with 1000 jet time (ex Korean air). Was thinking was trying Copa for 1-2 years to suffer then try Korean air. Or doesn't it sound too simple to be realistic?

**Was thinking about trying Copa

This is the biggest hiring boom the US is going to see for a very long long time. I could see 5 years ago going to Copa, but why would a newbie want to do this today? I mean really, why not just go to a growing jet regional like PSA, TSA, etc.. and be a Captain in a year? For 737 time that the airlines are not going to care about at all during this hiring boom over the next few years?

My opinion is it would be a mistake to do this in this day and time. Unless you have a really valid reason like you are from Panama or something.

Have you seen the size of the spiders in central america?? :eek:

NOT Particularly want to live down there but
Japanese and korean airlines want just 500 on type and they have great benefits and QOL even with the seniority
Europe is outta question without JAA license
American - there is no room for advancement within the majors
Soo it's either dealing with regionals or like Copa

What's ur take on it? Or am I missing something?