This is true, however doesnt change the fact that many people still are not pay protected for cancelled flights they were not originally awarded. I still have lost 13+ hours of pay, and many of our first officers are in the same boat, guaranteed. Yes we had line guarantee pay protection for January...that was for one day of wx related cancellations. Now we are into February and today's wx cancellations is not part of that pay protection. Not exactly exaggeration and out right lies my friend.

And the company changes your guarantee if you trade trips...so if you have an 80 hour line, swap with another crew member to a 77 hour line, and you lose a day of pay now you only get paid 72 hours.

So did RAH and the union definitely reduce negotiations to once a month or is it just proposed that that is what the company wants to do as of now. Most of the folks ive spoken too seem quite optimistic that a new contract will be in place to vote on by the end of first quarter to mid summer the latest. I was told a mediator(s) will make the final call as too how many meetings will take place per month. With the announcement of Shuttle getting the 50 175s, is it possible new contract will be out for vote prior to the first plane coming on property?

^^^^ ha ha and pigs will fly to Mars :D

The union and management were meeting twice a week engaging in direct negotiations. Now thanks to the utterly worthless NMB the company is using mediation as an excuse to meet just twice a month. The mediator and the NMB can't make the company do anything, especially not dictate how often they will meet our NC to negotiate. In case you are unaware, the NMB is not our friend and is in bed with the company and this will hinder any contract negotiation progress going forward. Why is RAH in any rush to get a labor contract? We are the lowest cost labor group and they are raking in money because of it. Make it look like we are trying by agreeing to a few inconsequential articles and then commence the dragging of the feet after less than 3 months of pushing "culture change" and "the pilots are our #1 customer". Yeah okay!!!

Management rejected the NC's FO pay raise LOA, is trying and will most likely park the 145's early to staff 170's(which will perpetuate our 7 year+ upgrade), has basically withdrew from negotiations and according to our NC has begun making it difficult for pilots to go to other companies with respect to PRIA requests. The United birds coming to Shuttle has no bearing on anything other than possibly providing new bases for our guys that live out west.

...not a chance

and fixed it for ya

According to the union the company believes a mediated session is worth 3 regular sessions. That's why they cut back....but we will see if that really is the case. If they stay on their current course those estimates may be accurate but compensation, scheduling, and reserve are yet to be touched. Those are what will really take time to hash out.

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Management rejected the NC's FO pay raise LOA, is trying and will most likely park the 145's early to staff 170's(which will perpetuate our 7 year+ upgrade), has basically withdrew from negotiations and according to our NC has begun making it difficult for pilots to go to other companies with respect to PRIA requests. The United birds coming to Shuttle has no bearing on anything other than possibly providing new bases for our guys that live out west.[/QUOTE]

What does pria has anything to do with going to other companies?

I thought the 175 was replacing the q400. So wouldnt they displace the Q pilots to the 175?

I hear there is going to be a huge displacement from the 145s. Sucks for the 2008 crew, but hopefully they can move on without the pic. I have friends in HQ and they are saying no downgrades but possibly no true upgrades for a year or so.

What are they doing with PRIA? They know the 145s are being parked, but they will wait until the last minute to release the info.

The company is simply dragging it's feet concerning PRIA requests. Per the law, they have 30 days to respond to a PRIA request. They're just waiting 29 days or so. I have no idea if it's causing any issues for folks in class at better jobs. I'd imagine that some companies may hold off on extending a job offer until the PRIA stuff is in hand.

Sounds spiteful, but I'm sure they have only one employee working on PRIA request.

If for 40h a week, that person is only responsible for sending out pria, then it's spiteful

Yes, I know for a fact that the old battle axes that run the Human Remains department wait as long as possible on purpose. They will only process the pria once they are forced to by the deadline and not any sooner.
Like I have said before, RAH HR operates as if it still thinks that pilots are begging to come to work there.
Good luck on getting a contract by summer. I would just love to see the NMB release you guys and watch Bedford lose control just for an evening. The guy is a first class douche bag.

Hahaha solid post

I doubt they will see a contract anytime soon. From what I hear BB is trying to stall yet again. I hope you guys fight for at least 12k per pilot signing bonuses. That's what he is giving the new hires I guess.

With all I hear about RAH, Our they still recruiting and filling classes?

Yes.

Filler.

I think the bonus and no training contract is doing wonders.

At least you guys voted out the extra assessment from IBT.

Nope. Still here. Just capped.


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Yeah, we royally screwed the pooch with that assessment crap. It's just a teamster fund that will continue on in perpetuity. Maybe we'll get a subscription to Toothless Trucker Babes magazine.

Were you one of the many fools that voted for it? If so, please don't whine about it. Amazing how dumb everyone was to have the wool pulled over their eyes with that one. You all aren't very smart, are you? Disclaimer: if you voted against it, I take this back. Otherwise, you're a dummy like the rest!!

I have no problem admitting when I've made a mistake. I unfortunately did vote yes for the stupid assessment when I still had a slight bit of hope that there was a chance for a new contract. That abomination of a TA, along with the "that's the best you're gonna get, if you don't like it, IKEA is always hiring" attitude from the IBT completely destroyed what little faith I still had.

Now we're stuck with a permanent tax on our stupidity. The only way to get rid of it is for IBT to call a special election to get rid of it. I have better odds of winning the Powerball and MegaMillions lotteries simultaneously than the teamsters giving up the coin. It's a good thing I bought a lotto ticket last week.

The Toonsters suck! I proudly voted no both times. They already take over a grand a year from me. I don't want to give the dip$hits one penny more. It's all a big joke and we're the punchline. You yes voting fools have that last TA for your return on investment. Fools. . .

Does anyone know if the q400 pilots will be displaced to S5?

There is no official guidance on this as of now. However, if you wish to speculate.....

The Q400s are not going away overnight, and the replacement E175s are not arriving overnight. The last of the Q400s will be gone at the end of summer 2016 and the E175 deliveries for (for UAL flying) will go until August 2017.

Whether displacements from the Q400 occur is entirely dependent on the rate at which pilots leave the equipment voluntarily. For example, if every Q400 CA bids off for the jet via a vacancy, there would be zero displacements. In fact, if too many Q400 pilots bid off via vacancy, they could theoretically have run some Q400 CA vacancies. This is occurring now on the E145, even though all the contracts will expire by the end of 2016.

And the company benefits TREMENDOUSLY from vacancies because they would not have to pay those pilots moving expenses.

Inevitably, some Q400 CAs will wait to be displaced since they might hold better relative seniority in base on the Q. I am already seeing a TON of Q400 CAs bidding off via vacancy and going to class for the E170 at YX (not S5). So you will see guys going to both certificates.

As for the Q400 FOs (as I suspect you are most interested) the company has them by the balls. The only way they will allow you off the Q400 is by waiving the contractual provision that freezes you in type until upgrade OR through displacement. You can NOT bit on a vacancy position as an FO unless it's the same type and certificate that you are currently working. Initially, I expect the Q400 FOs based in the east bases (EWR, PIT) to accept voluntary displacement to both YX and S5, the Q400s FOs based in DEN and MCI will probably stick around unless they allow a displacement to the YX MCI E170 base.

So in short, there will be displacements from the Q400 FO side, but based on your seniority (and how others bid), you could end up at YX or S5. There is really no control and it will amount to luck if you end up getting displaced to a certificate you want to be on.

there are 70 FO vacancies open for RAH...holy poop

that should let you know how bad it has gotten

NC throwing in the towel?
 

That's the impression I got from their latest update.