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Sioux115 01-15-2007 09:32 AM

E-190 Vs. C700
 
Sorry if this has been discussed at great lengths but searched and nothing came up. Possible rumor of E-jets at QX, was wondering if anyone has flown both could compare the performance or just explain some of the performance characteristics of the E-jet. I heard they are slower and can not climb as high. Just curious. Thanks.:cool:

subin30 01-15-2007 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Sioux115 (Post 103093)
Sorry if this has been discussed at great lengths but searched and nothing came up. Possible rumor of E-jets at QX, was wondering if anyone has flown both could compare the performance or just explain some of the performance characteristics of the E-jet. I heard they are slower and can not climb as high. Just curious. Thanks.:cool:

E170- Mach .83, FL410.
CRJ700?

Airsupport 01-15-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by subin30 (Post 103126)
E170- Mach .83, FL410.
CRJ700?

yeah... same with the crj 700. but it better be brand spankin new, and empty, and with min fuel to get that high, and go that fast.

xjtr 01-15-2007 11:12 AM

I asked this in my original post "Anyone flown a ERJ 170 or 190" but I am wondering about the operating costs; as in which one is more expensive to operate. Does anyone have an idea?

Sioux115 01-15-2007 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by subin30 (Post 103126)
E170- Mach .83, FL410.
CRJ700?

Sounds pretty comparable. Is that a 76 seat config.? Anyone know what the typical seating capacity for the 190/195?

Slaphappy 01-15-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by subin30 (Post 103126)
E170- Mach .83, FL410.
CRJ700?

.85 Mach and can climb at 2000 fpm even above fl 350

subin30 01-15-2007 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 103245)
.85 Mach and can climb at 2000 fpm even above fl 350

guess the crj wins

Airsupport 01-15-2007 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by subin30 (Post 103276)
guess the crj wins

i wouldn't take slaphappys word for it,,,, after reading his post he doesn't seem...."right"

320ToBearz 01-15-2007 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 103245)
.85 Mach and can climb at 2000 fpm even above fl 350

uh no.

try 500-1000fpm at .77 high speed or .74 standard climb. typically above FL370 500fpm is a "good" climb rate to maintain a speed. you can climb at 2000fpm but you may see what happens to slow CRJ's (albeit the example we have was a 200).

62,000# is typically the magic weight for FL390+ in the 700. 67000# is the magic number typically for FL390.

http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...p?tela=summary

states E-170 is M.82. crj 700 is .85. the 700 loves speed and will accelerate to this in the mid to higher 30's. you will only get about .79-.80 at FL410. fun airplane to fly as i'm sure the e-170 is. the crj also slows fairly quickly clean under the 1nm per 10kts old adage. i've seen 250 to the marker in it.

e-170 is newer and thus more "technologically" advanced.

Burt Reynolds 01-16-2007 02:07 PM

i've heard that the e170 is more thirsty than the RJ (it has the same engines as the CRJ-900 I believe) and costs more with maint... But, from a passenger standpoint, the E170 wins.

Sennaha 01-17-2007 12:47 PM

Got to FL400 in 18 minutes in the 190. (around 40 people and 14K of fuel)

Fokker28 01-18-2007 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 103130)
yeah... same with the crj 700. but it better be brand spankin new, and empty, and with min fuel to get that high, and go that fast.

Wrong. We go to FL410 regularly. Takes about 60K# weight and ISA or less. Airplanes certainly don't need to be 'spankin new'. Have you flown a 700????

JoeyMeatballs 01-18-2007 01:15 PM

190 vs 700, who cares you guys arent getting paid would you should be for it!

Fokker28 01-18-2007 01:52 PM

Really? CAs top out at $120/hr or so. How much do you think we should be getting???

JoeyMeatballs 01-18-2007 02:50 PM

Not at MESA they don't (and thats for 900), and GOJETTERS dont make that

Fokker28 01-18-2007 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 104590)
Not at MESA they don't (and thats for 900), and GOJETTERS dont make that

Well, you didn't specify that you were only talking about Mesa, now did you? :rolleyes:

JoeyMeatballs 01-18-2007 05:04 PM

haha Shoulda specified, sorry ;)

subin30 01-18-2007 07:03 PM

lets start comparing boeing and airbus just for the heck of it....


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