Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 104679)

not really. the key here is that colgan has no jets,, so for them to get jets on the certificate would be a big deal. not saying it wont happen but i think colgan will get more props, and bigger props, and pncl will just get more jets. the difference is we have scope already saying any new flying must be done by pinnacle airlines pilots. we were smart enough to put in the last conctract that Pinnacle airlines pilots will do all present and future flying for Pinnacle INC. thats some pretty solid scope protection,,, now are they going to try and find a way around it... YOU BETCHA!!

Originally Posted by STR8NLVL (Post 104457)

ummm, how 'bout not having a non-union sister company stealing your flying for sub-par wages and undermining your every demand at each contract negotiation? :rolleyes:

I really shouldn't take a rocket scientist to see that we both have a vested interest in not being pitted against one another.

Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 104809)

theirs was actually a little different. but the same still applies, i have even heard already that grievences are already in the works. our scope says it in as plain english as it gets. any flying done for pinnacle holdings will be done by pinnacle airlines pilots.

Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 104943)

I am being the "Devil's Advocate". This is what thje lawyers will say if this goes that far.
Separate management, Operating Cert., etc....
(More like an "investment" that buying)

Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 104938)

But "Colgan" pilots, are flying for "Colgan Air". They're SEPARATE That's the difference.
BTW, does Colgan/Pinnacle have overlapping routes? THAT could get UGLY!!!

Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 104280)

Considering Chuck Colgan told the Washington Post that selling the then Colgan Airways to Presidential Airways was "The biggest mistake of my life."

I'll believe it when I see it, can't listen on the conference call I'm flying. Big deal, if we get bought we get bought..hopefully we get better pay and QOL. Not to mention a chance to move into the RJ.

You just watch, if PCL buys them Chuck will be on the phone getting new airplanes to try to do it again from scratch. They have no reason to sell.

Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 104809)

theirs was actually a little different. but the same still applies, i have even heard already that grievences are already in the works. our scope says it in as plain english as it gets. any flying done for pinnacle holdings will be done by pinnacle airlines pilots.