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Old 01-23-2014, 08:31 AM
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January 22, 2014

Fellow ALPA Members:

In light of the recent ASA/ExpressJet contract rejection and the American Eagle negotiations, I’ve received e-mails from many pilots. I’ve responded to the individual e-mails but want to make sure my views and ALPA’s actions are more widely known. The life of pilots at Fee-for-Departure carriers is hard. Low pay, career stagnation, and aggressive management efforts to erode ALPA pilot leaders’ hard-won contract victories are the norm these days.

You have expressed concern about current negotiations and your future. Starting in 2000, ALPA leadership, fellow ALPA members and ALPA staff supported Comair pilots during their 90-day strike, rallied behind ExpressJet pilots in 2003 to negotiate an industry-leading contract, and in 2011 applied massive resources to help Pinnacle, Mesaba and Colgan pilots gain a superior single contract in just over 100 days. In between those landmark victories, the same commitment and resources were put to work at Air Wisconsin, Jazz, Atlantic Coast/Independence, ASA, Piedmont, PSA, Mesa and many others -- whether making improvements or protecting pilots during company bankruptcies.

So what has changed about ALPA's actions? Nothing. We are the same hard-working Union that supported those negotiations. In fact, I firmly believe your Union's commitment to all pilots -- no matter what company they work for and what kind of airplane they fly -- has only gotten stronger. But the airline industry has changed. Financial scrutiny resulted in consolidation and capacity reduction at brand carriers, and the same thing is now happening industry wide.

As hard as ALPA works to shape the landscape, we aren't in complete control of the industry changes underway, or company financial decisions to stop doing business like Comair, or file for bankruptcy like Pinnacle. Those decisions impact other industry competitors too. Pilots aren't to blame, and we have to think our way through the industry cycle that's underway. The response by pilot groups in this environment has been varied. Last week, pilots of ASA and XJT overwhelmingly rejected a concessionary contract and sent a message to their management team. The Association is working aggressively with elected pilot leaders on a path forward there.

ALPA is founded on the principle that each pilot group, and its local leaders, gets to make bargaining decisions. As always, the Association provides support from fellow pilots, professional resources, financial backing and legislative and regulatory access among other things.

Next week your elected leaders will be getting together as a group at ALPA headquarters in Herndon, Virginia to discuss these issues, and we will be here to help plot the course and execute on their direction.

Your Union will continue to dedicate the necessary resources to the fight, call for airline brands to take more responsibility for your carriers, and enlist the National Mediation Board to help solve these problems. As our record has shown, working together we can emerge with stronger contracts and more robust career opportunities.

ALPA is unyielding in its mission. Our Union will devote its full resources to protect and improve the careers of all our members. In the end, we are all pilots. And I believe in Pilots – Period. Full Stop.
It seems to me that ALPA national is trying to justify their endorsements of concessionary contracts by saying that the current industry dynamics are out of their control. Collectively we have the upper hand, yet somehow alpa national is telling us that at some point we need to settle? Please..

How about encouraging regional groups to improve their lot? They cant comair all of us - and if we all stand together nobody gets comaired.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:43 AM
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Can you fire these guys?
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:51 AM
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Default I got the same read from that email too!

I guess they are tried of hearing us ***** about them not doing anything other then "Thank you sir may I have another"
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:59 AM
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We need to start a union that represents regional pilots only...
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:02 AM
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Default ALPA: "Don't blame us!"

Alpa is only as strong as it's weakest, brown-nosing, chief pilot rear end kissing, squealing, pay for training, non-US citizen, back stabbing, can't land in a cross-wind, company spy.

I agree, don't blame ALPA.

I am ready to puke when I see new threads starting, " One list NO ALPA."
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer View Post
We need to start a union that represents regional pilots only...
I think every pilot at a major carrier that pays ALPA dues would wholeheartedly support you guys leaving ALPA. We have subsidized your MEC's for a long time while you were handed flying from our companies. Didn't hear too much complaining on your collective be halves as you readily added new cities and aircraft to the detriment of the mainline pilots. So please by all means: you're cleared for takeoff.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne View Post
I think every pilot at a major carrier that pays ALPA dues would wholeheartedly support you guys leaving ALPA. We have subsidized your MEC's for a long time while you were handed flying from our companies. Didn't hear too much complaining on your collective be halves as you readily added new cities and aircraft to the detriment of the mainline pilots. So please by all means: you're cleared for takeoff.
In all fairness, we did exchange scope for raises. I voted against that by the way; did you?
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:28 AM
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Good one Mason, I don't think Lambourne will be opining anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by Mason32 View Post
In all fairness, we did exchange scope for raises. I voted against that by the way; did you?
Is this too soon?


Yes I did. I saw it as a fools bet. The big problem was how it was sold versus how it was implemented. We were told by ALPA and the company they would be to add frequency versus wholesale market substitutes.

The RJ pilots have the carcasses of former regional carriers laying to see that there is always a lower bidder. ACA and COMAIR are only two of the biggest casualties.

The regional companies know they can shutdown one entity and those pilots are all out looking for new jobs somewhere else. The fact these carriers don't have a brand or customer base means another carrier can do their job. It might take a few months of pain on the major carriers behalf but it can be done. With the 50 seater dying and better major scope clauses these pilot groups are going to feel a pinch. They want our profits, yet their company negotiates a FFD. just as when the majors were losing money they were paid the same. When they have no risk they shouldn't get any reward.

Just hope this nightmare of the proliferation of the RJ is almost over.
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Neither group is served by being represented by the same union. The regional system exists in order to economically oppress a subset of labor, it is the nature of things that the oppressed may not always have their master's best interests at heart, and vice versa. Fundamentally, that's the dynamic we're dealing with. Unity, brotherhood, etc is all lipstick on that pig.

If major pilot groups one-listed all their feeders, then problem solved. Easier said than done, but it's within the realm of the possible (unlike the national seniority list fantasy).
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