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Old 06-05-2015, 05:47 AM
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More CRJ flying to be retained
Envoy to Retain More Bombardier CRJ-700 Flying


Dear Envoy team –

I’m pleased to report that Envoy pilot staffing has steadily improved in recent months, enabling us to operate more of the flying American Airlines asks us to perform. As a result, we’ll continue to operate some of our aircraft longer than previously announced and the rate at which we transfer aircraft from Envoy to PSA will decrease.

In recent months, it has become apparent that an increasing number of Envoy pilots are choosing to stay on the Envoy team and enjoy a direct career path to American. Envoy’s agreement with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), which represents our pilots, provides industry leading "flow-through" rights to American for all existing and new hire Envoy pilots. In addition, AAG has made a substantial investment, placing 40 new 76-seat Embraer 175 (E175) jets in the Envoy fleet, with options for up to 90 more. Envoy is hiring new pilots and welcoming back pilots returning from leaves of absence. Lower attrition and increased hiring mean that Envoy is steadily building our capability to fly more aircraft than previously forecast.

Specifically, American has informed me that the transfer of the Bombardier CRJ-700 aircraft from Envoy to PSA will be slower than initially planned. We will now transfer 12 instead of 18 CRJ-700s to PSA during 2015. Envoy will continue to fly the remaining fleet of 35 CRJ-700s until transfers to PSA are expected to resume in the second half of 2016.

All of this is great news for the Envoy team. For our pilots, this means that we will be posting additional CRJ Captain vacancies in the Chicago domicile and will offer more Captain positions in the large RJ pay range. For flight attendants, this means substantially more two-person aircraft will be in service and we will resume new hire classes this fall. For our mechanics, this means that we will have more planes to work on, preserving jobs.

Across Envoy, there is a tremendous amount of work being done to prepare for our upcoming fleet renewal and ensure a smooth introduction of the E175 later this year. The initial groups of pilots have been trained and many of the training, manuals, and procedures are in final development to become the first American Eagle carrier to offer this enhanced two-class E175 service to American’s customers from DFW.

Thank you for all you do – for our customers and each other.

Pedro Fábregas
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Old 06-05-2015, 05:52 AM
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For the PSA trolls that tried to say this wouldn't happen: perhaps you should be a bit more astute when a member of our MEC is on here telling you it will.

For the little troll saying there would be downgrades and furloughs(FirstClass) - back under your bridge!

It isn't much, but it is the start of quite a bit of good news to come. I hope all my FOs see upgrade here, where they belong, in the next year or two. Upgrades with the seniority pay step they have earned. Upgrades that don't mean a lifetime on reserve.

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I think you're being a little dramatic.

It's 6 less for this year.....So they delayed it 2 whole months. I hope you guys can upgrade too but I don't see 6 acft and 2 months helping very much.

Cmon man.
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Boom. Finally a small win for ENVOY
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Originally Posted by pagey View Post
I think you're being a little dramatic.

It's 6 less for this year.....So they delayed it 2 whole months. I hope you guys can upgrade too but I don't see 6 acft and 2 months helping very much.

Cmon man.
Of course you would be right here to downplay it, act kinda like our buddy, but rush right in to do it nonetheless.

The drama is your douchenuts trying to say it wouldn't happen. It isn't much, but at this point every thing we can get to bridge the gap between the loss of the CRJS and the 175s coming aboard works for us.

When you see the vacancy bid, you'll understand.
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Old news... Wasn't this already announced on a couple different threads? I'm happy we're only taking 12 this year instead of 18. Hell, I'd be happier if you guys kept them. At least this way our training department might have a snowballs chance in hell of catching up a bit. I started training in January, and it's currently June. 5 months since beginning training and I haven't started IOE. Can't say I hate the pto but geeze, there's only so much one can do with so much time off.
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That being said, FirstClass is getting a little annoying. I see what he is doing throwing it back in your faces after almost 2 year of you guys being extremely hostile and degrading towards PSA. He is saying nothing worse than what all of you have said....

Unfortunately all he is doing is stirring up and new round of PSA hate around here and derailing any logical, or helpful conversation in either airline's threads.

I suppose his spin on this will be interesting though. Being a troll is an art indeed, maybe ole' Biter can chime in as well.
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More CRJ flying to be retained
Envoy to Retain More Bombardier CRJ-700 Flying


Dear Envoy team –

I’m pleased to report that Envoy pilot staffing has steadily improved in recent months, enabling us to operate more of the flying American Airlines asks us to perform. As a result, we’ll continue to operate some of our aircraft longer than previously announced and the rate at which we transfer aircraft from Envoy to PSA will decrease.

In recent months, it has become apparent that an increasing number of Envoy pilots are choosing to stay on the Envoy team and enjoy a direct career path to American. Envoy’s agreement with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), which represents our pilots, provides industry leading "flow-through" rights to American for all existing and new hire Envoy pilots. In addition, AAG has made a substantial investment, placing 40 new 76-seat Embraer 175 (E175) jets in the Envoy fleet, with options for up to 90 more. Envoy is hiring new pilots and welcoming back pilots returning from leaves of absence. Lower attrition and increased hiring mean that Envoy is steadily building our capability to fly more aircraft than previously forecast.

Specifically, American has informed me that the transfer of the Bombardier CRJ-700 aircraft from Envoy to PSA will be slower than initially planned. We will now transfer 12 instead of 18 CRJ-700s to PSA during 2015. Envoy will continue to fly the remaining fleet of 35 CRJ-700s until transfers to PSA are expected to resume in the second half of 2016.

All of this is great news for the Envoy team. For our pilots, this means that we will be posting additional CRJ Captain vacancies in the Chicago domicile and will offer more Captain positions in the large RJ pay range. For flight attendants, this means substantially more two-person aircraft will be in service and we will resume new hire classes this fall. For our mechanics, this means that we will have more planes to work on, preserving jobs.

Across Envoy, there is a tremendous amount of work being done to prepare for our upcoming fleet renewal and ensure a smooth introduction of the E175 later this year. The initial groups of pilots have been trained and many of the training, manuals, and procedures are in final development to become the first American Eagle carrier to offer this enhanced two-class E175 service to American’s customers from DFW.

Thank you for all you do – for our customers and each other.

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Originally Posted by pagey View Post
That being said, FirstClass is getting a little annoying. I see what he is doing throwing it back in your faces after almost 2 year of you guys being extremely hostile and degrading towards PSA. He is saying nothing worse than what all of you have said....

Unfortunately all he is doing is stirring up and new round of PSA hate around here and derailing any logical, or helpful conversation in either airline's threads.

I suppose his spin on this will be interesting though. Being a troll is an art indeed, maybe ole' Biter can chime in as well.
He needs to go to art school then. Obvious troll is obvious.

I cannot speak for others but I have not given ANYTHING like that tool has. I have been contemplating playing the troll game with him though. I mean if we all want it to just get downright ugly on here, I can certainly make that happen.
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader View Post
He needs to go to art school then. Obvious troll is obvious.

I cannot speak for others but I have not given ANYTHING like that tool has. I have been contemplating playing the troll game with him though. I mean if we all want it to just get downright ugly on here, I can certainly make that happen.
Trust me, he's as irritating to us as he is to you guys. We see what he's doing.
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