I'm Mad as Hell and I'm Not Going To Take It!
 

Like Peter Finch asked people to do in the movie Network, its time to yell out the windows "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

Another pilot group has pulled out defeat from the jaws of victory!

Gojet has been negotiating a new contract for years. They have no work rules now, they lose their pay when a trip cancels, a worthless 401K.

Most people know what Gojet is like and won't go there. Trips are canceling. The company is paying new hires 10,000 to go there. (However, you should read the find print!)

Options for the company? How about finishing the contract and pay market rates?

Instead, the pilots have given the company some leeway by agreeing to take 200% for picking up trips rather than the contract's 150%.

Lets do some math: You get an 85 hour line at very low pay because you can't get a new contract. The airline can't man their trips so rather than a contract with market rates to attract pilots, you agree to this 200% to help the company. You can't even average 5 of the enhanced hours per month because of the yearly limits, but lets assume you can. 85 hours times regular and 5 enhanced pays 95 hours so really you get 5 extra hours of pay for the same work. But, wait, don't forget, under the current contract you get 150% for the extra trip so it is really only 2.5 hours extra from what you were entitled to under the contract.

So now you get 95 hours of pay for what in the past would have been 92.5 hours of pay. 95/92.5 = 1.027. Thus, you have gotten a 2.7% raise. Congradulations Gojetters! Rather than the 50% raise the market demands, you have negotiated yourselves a 2.7% raise and gave up a day of your month. Union leadership! Everyone sing along - "So look for, that union label, when you are buy-ing that coat or tie!"

New hires get 10,000 extra. Current captains making, say 70/hr get a possible 2.5 hours x 12 months x 70 hours = $4200 if they were able to do that every month. Realistically, cut that in half and you end up with 2100 and gave them an extra 6 days of your year.

Its time to tell them "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

Who is with me?

(Since this website is taking advertising money from Gojet you can expect this message to be deleted soon! So get your "I'm Mad as Hell" in Quickly!)

Sorry I've been out at the bar watching hockey. But all I read was some blah blah gojet screwed me over. Like really you are that shocked that a company like Gojet screwed you over?

what happened?

I don't know either. However I think one would be hard pressed to find any pilot group that would turn down such an added provision.

Hey comair colon,

Why don't you quit and tell all your buddies to quit. I have no remorse for people like you who go to a place like go jet, and expect to be treated with respect. You knew the pay work rules before going there. Sadly I find pilot unity among the regionals to be dismal at best, and nearly non existant at a place like gojet, best of luck.

I guess PSA isn't the bottom feeder. Weeeewwww


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GoJets days are numbered, let them have whatever they want. Won't be around in a year anyway. The original poster acts like whatever goget does somehow matters in the grand scheme, it doesn't.

ComAirColonel, did you consult anyone or do any research before making the decision to work for GoJet?

That pretty much says it all.

Paging thegoldenjet. Paging thegoldenjet. You're needed in the psychiatric ward.

Can't say people didn't warn you

It cracks me up when people who work for GoJet come on here and post angry rants.

It's like a hooker getting mad because you don't want to cuddle.

I think it's shameful that all of the responses to the original post, thus far, have been made in an effort to belittle and demean this guy for highlighting yet another dumb move on the part of regional pilots (and their union) and for attempting to get pilots to do what's best for the entire regional pilot group.

Everyone loses their minds when PSA, Piedmont, and envoy accepts a new deal, but when this guy takes a poke at something equally damaging to the pilot group,........ all he gets for his efforts are insults and snark.

What's wrong with you people?

What's wrong that people don't feel bad for someone who took a job at the White Castle of regionals? Everyone knows about their poor Union-management relationship. Everyone knows that it's one of the worst contracts out there. Yet, I'm supposed to feel pity for someone because they are frustrated by those things?

Aren't you guys teamsters too? They are starting to make ALPA look good

No, you're not supposed to feel pity for him. But you probably should back his attempt to get his fellow gojetters to NOT pick up open time. He's doing what he can in order to make the "White Castle" of regional airlines suffer a little for their past (and on-going) transgressions. Why can't you get behind that?

Getting others to Not pick up open time is an illegal job action. If he wants to make a difference, get involved in union activities.

Im going to agree here. We need some type of "oneness" we are ALL flying CRJ/ERJ for below standard wages. I don't care what airline your at your still flying for less then what your worth! Yes some airlines have better contracts, but still not being paid what WE ALL are worth. I do agree GoJets is the bottom as far as pay and contract same with Great Lakes but, who knows maybe thats the only place someone could get hired. Either way still at the regionals and we should stand up for each other instead of bring each other down! There is power in numbers!

Thank you, there Sheriff. Ain't you just "the company man".

Haha. I'm definitely no company man. You want any favor in the eyes of the NMB if it ever comes to that? Having various illegal job actions will hurt you more than it helps you. You can come on here and throw tantrums and threaten to go outside the RLA if you'd like. The company can file for injunctions in federal court and it goes on the record. Your union will end up having to bend over and take it more than they already are. That is, if they aren't held in contempt of court first. So yes, please keep doing whatever you want. I'm not the idiot who decided to go work at GOJETZZZ.

Horsesht! How's that "wearin' the white hat" workin' out for RAH, Allegiant, and others? There are no "favors" at the NMB. If you give something away,..... you just give something away. It's time to start TAKING,.... not giving.

It's not about favors. Unions make up less than 7% of the population from over 50% and there is a large quantity of people who want to see the rest of that 7% go away. You're already bargaining in an anti-labor environment and by conducting illegal job actions, you'll lose any good standing with the NMB, your union offers could face jail time, and public perception will take a nose dive. So how does that help you again?

It's all about sending this message to your airline management: I'm Mad as Hell and I'm Not Going To Take It!

Or should we just continue to take the carrot, (or crumbs) and continue to bailout the company by picking up open time,....... because we want favors from the NMB?

Personally, I have refused to pick up any open time. I fly my schedule. Nothing more, nothing less. I urge you (and others) to do the same and I doubt anyone will go to jail for doing that.

Sack-up.

There is a mgmt owned shill posting in this thread. I'm certain you all know who it is. He's a good little pet monkey. Grinds his organ with practiced ease.

How in gods name by not picking up OT on your freakin day off an illegal job action? Dude your not working! ***? People can do whatever the hell they please when not working.

I seriously call BS that if a pilot, rounding up troops and getting them all to agree to not help the company out, (on their days off none the less) being an illegal job action. You are absolutely NOT REQUIRED to do anything work related on your day off at home.

Can someone please explain this? I seriously can't believe that to be true. If I don't want to pick up OT I certainly don't have to. No one is obligated.

Delta V Alpa 123 F. Supp. 2d 1356 (N.D. Ga. 2000)

Google that. It is illegal for employees or unions to encourage, coerce or intimidate other pilots into not picking up Open-time.

Don't blame me for you being an idiot.

As an average Joe, you're still entitled to your opinion though, whether public or private.

Absolutely. If you feel that it wrong to not pick up open time, you can express your opinion and not pick it up. If, however, you being to coerce others, that is illegal.

How do you do that?

Huh? Please explain

I have no sympathy. By going to work for GoJet, this person did more damage to this industry than they can fix by convincing people to stop picking up open time. I have an idea for what we should try to convince GoJetters to do...

Quit.

If you coerce them, its illegal :D

I wasn't trying to tell people not to pickup open time. I was trying to point out that GJ pilots are negotiating a new contract and they keep giving things to the company that allows the company to keep going without a new contract. First the bonus, now this little change. They are taking pennies and allowing the dollars to go away. Reminds me of how the Chirstmas turkey has replaced the Christmas bonus.

Same things are going on at Republic. The union allows the bonuses and the company can keep delaying the contract for all. Pilots have the leverage for the first time in 50 years and they are not using it.

This must have scared some since it brought out all the management people to attack me and misdirect the message.

I thought this was a pretty good raise until I saw the math error. At 2.5 extra hours per month times 12 months times 70 per hour it only equals $2100 not $4200. So if you could only do this 6 months a year you would get only 1050. $4200 didn't sound bad but the 1050 extra for 6 days more of work is not worth it. Basically, for 1050, a pilot will be stuck with the current contract for an extra year or so.

I guess when you have adjusted to working for nothing you can be controlled with only a few extra dollars.

"I'm hungry as hell and I need the extra dollar today! The new contract will have to wait!"