PDT Flow Question
 

Hey Everyone,

Im sure this answer is somewhere in the mountains of the PDT thread. What are the qualifications for the flow to American? Must you have a 4 year degree? I seen the 1 year as FO 1 year as CA but nothing else.

Any insight?

You need to be an employee in good standing. And have been in your position a year. That's about it.

Thats not bad, you work there?

What he said. Also you have to pass the pee test at aa as well. Otherwise that's it

Is there a distance???:D

I hear it's more like a game of limbo...:eek:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but the pdt ads plastered all over this site are using best case scenario projections to get to those flow numbers.

On the other pdt thread...I said 5-7 years is a good estimate...3 is little unrealistic for someone being hired today.

The people that get hired over then next 8 months will totally benefit. Then once the flow picks up to 6 a month they could flow in that time period, however it will then slowly increase for sure.

What makes the flow nice is that I was a very junior Captain for a long time and now before I flow I've been enjoying a great QOL of bidding much higher due to the senior folks flowing. Good time for me right now before I go. So just don't look at the flow for benefits it's goes further then that.

Training can't handle the flow to go up quickly. All the ads are based on getting more people on property to increase flow numbers. There's no way 1 dash 8 sim and 1 e-145 sim can handle an airline to double in size in a year. People here for 7-8 years are still looking at over 2 years to flow.


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We using 2 dash sim atm.

Oops forgot about that one. Still it's piedmont and anybody that works here knows that we are always way behind the curve.


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We will also add 145 sims as needed. When they have had backlogs in the past they have had up to 3 dash sims running, including one out in SEA if I remember correctly. AAL was more than willing to give us $1 million in additional sim time in Toronto for the Dash recently to prevent delays. Why would they not finance additional units and/or locations to ramp up 145 training? I don't think you will see the PSA-style logjams, because we don't need to grow as quickly and that is OK.

I totally understand where you coming from, it's been downsizing ever since I got here too...with that being said I also feel pretty good about my position here at pdt now. We finally have a hub base and potential career at aag.

Regarding behind the curve, it can be said for about 90% of the airlines.

Year and a half ago I wouldn't have told anyone to come to Piedmont. Now??? Honestly it's probably one of the best place to come right NOW.

Fleet/Flow related question.

I'm applying in October with hopes for a January class date. My preference is ROA because it will be closest to where I will be living and drivable if need be. This implies being given/selecting the -8 fleet.

My question relates to the 1 year seat lock incurred when changing fleet and the timing of -8 retirements and how that could affect when a JAN2016 hire could possibly flow. If the writing is on the wall that a pilot will be forced off the -8 as the fleet retires but he or she also sees the light at the end of the tunnel for a flow date, I'm wondering if it would be wise for a pilot in this scenario to bid the jet earlier on and avoid being locked past when you could have flowed up to AA?

I'm guessing the -8s will be gone or nearly gone before this would be a realistic concern for me. Just curious what others think.

Probably a very true statement.

The same could have been said about PSA pre August 2013, compared to the past year.

Remember that when you talk about envoy in the coming months. If they fix the QOL issues - which are currently being negotiated - the rest will likely fall into place pretty much as their plan has done at the other two WO's.

There is no lock if you are displaced. The flow lockout is only if you voluntarily upgrade or bid into a different aircraft.

Good to know. Thanks.