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ThreeStripe 07-30-2015 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 1940428)
And at the same time, all of the partners they fly for simply can not allow that feed to disappear quickly. The contracts will remain mostly intact I would think.

United to Skywest: how long to spin up 30 more E175's?
Skywest to United: 90 days.

American to Envoy: how long to spin up 30 700's?
Envoy to American: as soon as you stop giving them to PSA

Delta to Express Jet......you get the idea

bonesbrigade 07-30-2015 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 1940254)
Lots of talk of bankruptcy for a company that still generated a profit...

Uh Ground COntrol to Major Tom???s...
When has that EVER mattered????

NWA Cargo, making TONS of money that they needed to hide to justify the BK.

AAR, now AAG, had $5billion in cash and declared BK, while shuffling profits off to subs like eagle. Did it simply to get out of aircraft leases.

It happens Every.SIngle.Day in US Corporate America. Its a shell game. Parent company shows loss while cash position INCREASES.

SmitteyB 07-30-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1940325)
Hmmm, how quickly one forgets about American's financial status when they filed

Hmmm, AMR Corp was in a perpetual cycle of quarterly losses.

The companies debt liabilities exceeded their liquid and non-liquid assets. The company was insolvent.

Same thing happened to PNCL Corp.

RAH is not insolvent. In fact they has positive cashflow and are still, as of now, reporting EPS 4 cents. Minute, yes, but still solvent.

billyho 07-30-2015 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by ThreeStripe (Post 1940552)
United to Skywest: how long to spin up 30 more E175's?
Skywest to United: 90 days.

American to Envoy: how long to spin up 30 700's?
Envoy to American: as soon as you stop giving them to PSA

Delta to Express Jet......you get the idea

You forgot PDT. They're about to double in size and could easily change over from 145's to 175's.
BB better get it done.

ThreeStripe 07-30-2015 03:17 PM

True, I just picked three carriers at random to prove a point.

bonesbrigade 07-30-2015 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1940606)
Hmmm, AMR Corp was in a perpetual cycle of quarterly losses.

The companies debt liabilities exceeded their liquid and non-liquid assets. The company was insolvent.

Same thing happened to PNCL Corp.

RAH is not insolvent. In fact they has positive cashflow and are still, as of now, reporting EPS 4 cents. Minute, yes, but still solvent.

My point being that it is easy for a company of that size to show a loss... they were showing a loss while at the same time increasing their cash horde.

Debt exceeding assets doesn't always make a company insolvent... being unable to pay debt obligations does that. AMR was not close to defaulting on any debt.

gojo 07-30-2015 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by bonesbrigade (Post 1940615)
My point being that it is easy for a company of that size to show a loss... they were showing a loss while at the same time increasing their cash horde.

Debt exceeding assets doesn't always make a company insolvent... being unable to pay debt obligations does that. AMR was not close to defaulting on any debt.

AMR, claimed that unless they restructured they would be unable to compete

TurbineTime 07-30-2015 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1940609)
You forgot PDT. They're about to double in size and could easily change over from 145's to 175's.
BB better get it done.

Not going to happen. From what Ive been hearing, PDT is having a hard time even getting its 145 program signed off by the feds. PDT has always operated turbo props and the jet is clearly a big hurdle to overcome, and thats not a knock against them, just a big task. I know you're a pretty hard cheerleader for PDT, but try to stick to reality.

billyho 07-30-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by TurbineTime (Post 1940621)
Not going to happen. From what Ive been hearing, PDT is having a hard time even getting its 145 program signed off by the feds. PDT has always operated turbo props and the jet is clearly a big hurdle to overcome, and thats not a knock against them, just a big task. I know you're a pretty hard cheerleader for PDT, but try to stick to reality.

Lol! We've got 22 in class now and more and more RAH pilots applying. Our instructors are typed and the sim is getting ready.'
There's no hard time. Another class of 20 is on its way.
You really think we are having a tough time. Just wait and see.
I forgot PSA had a hard time going from 25 Props😜

buddies8 07-30-2015 03:52 PM

you saying pdt has their own e145 sim, where?
these pilots in training that you say 25/20 for what aircraft the e145, where they going to do ioe? for that matter, where is the sim to be used?
all pdt has done is announce the base for the e145, as far as i know.
just as psa, your operation will su ck for the next five years. pdt, psa and envoy are not the prodigal children rather the bastards of aag.


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