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Iowa Farm Boy 08-14-2015 11:22 AM

Regional airline management has done more to harm this industry than most any other force. Employees are treated like adolescents working at Baskin Robbins (see above). They will tell you to fly illegally and then self disclose to the FAA thus shielding themselves while hanging the crew out to dry. Crew Scheduling is staffed by those with a high school education and a chip on their shoulder for those that have more. If you call with a plan that makes life better for you and others, it'll be rejected simply because it's your idea.

I tell people I have the best job in the world, so long as the cockpit door is closed. At that point we can do our job safely, professionally, and enjoyably. It's all the crap that happens when the door is open that creates former pilots, now working outside the industry.

Good luck with your career choices. Chose well- it's a pretty expensive education to not use.

Bootleg 08-14-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy (Post 1949280)
Regional airline management has done more to harm this industry than most any other force. Employees are treated like adolescents working at Baskin Robbins (see above). They will tell you to fly illegally and then self disclose to the FAA thus shielding themselves while hanging the crew out to dry. Crew Scheduling is staffed by those with a high school education and a chip on their shoulder for those that have more. If you call with a plan that makes life better for you and others, it'll be rejected simply because it's your idea.

I tell people I have the best job in the world, so long as the cockpit door is closed. At that point we can do our job safely, professionally, and enjoyably. It's all the crap that happens when the door is open that creates former pilots, now working outside the industry.

Good luck with your career choices. Chose well- it's a pretty expensive education to not use.



I agree.


The carbon based units currently occupying the position of "airline management" at the "regionals", are simply placeholders. Real decision makers and real decisions are done at the mainline. The poor fools at "regional airline management" really couldn't qualify to be door greeters at wal mart. They just nod their heads when told what to do by their masters. Behind the scenes, mainline hires professional Union busting negotiators and does every dirty trick in the playbook to fk over the pilot group. Id like to be able to say, that as a group, the pilots are great negotiators---but the fact is we are not. We show up on time, do a dam good job while we are there, then blow out asap back to our homes and loved ones. As professional Airline Pilots, we shouldn't have to look at our employers as threats to our livelihood, but they are. You are in hostile airspace.

The great equalizer to this whole debacle might just be the shortage of individuals who will tolerate this pay and treatment, kind of like what we are beginning to see happening now.

But what about mainline "management"? Well, it's true, AAG has a three time convicted felon (dwi) steering that ship--so there's that.

Bootleg 08-14-2015 01:14 PM

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Meanwhile, over at AAG headquarters, senior management could not be reached for comment.

Bob Loblaw 08-14-2015 04:04 PM

Working for a regional airline is like a swift kick to the labia. And you're a man.

AKcharger 08-15-2015 05:40 PM

It's super fun!

qazWSX 08-15-2015 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1948291)
Do yourself a favor and avoid the regionals. Every Regional Jet out there should be flown by mainline pilots with mainline pay and benefits.


Good Luck!

And what would mainline pay be?

PotatoChip 08-16-2015 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by qazWSX (Post 1950148)
And what would mainline pay be?

Not $20k would be a good start.

Proximity 08-16-2015 01:50 PM

How true is this from another board?


We hired a Skywest FO a year ago. He did seven years as an FO and couldn't take it anymore. One of his standard meals was a dry brick of Ramen, sprinkled with Tabasco, between two slices of white bread. It took a solid year to get him comfortable with $50 dinners. He was like a Pavlovian bloodhound in a hotel lobby, maniacal searching out free food.

I honestly don't know how he made it with a wife and two kids.
Seems like an exaggeration? Do Skywest ops require crew meals even? Is it crazy to put in seven years and leave on the cusp of upgrade?

Bootleg 08-16-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 1950505)
How true is this from another board?



Seems like an exaggeration? Do Skywest ops require crew meals even? Is it crazy to put in seven years and leave on the cusp of upgrade?



That's a dam shame.

PA31 08-16-2015 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 1950505)
How true is this from another board?



Seems like an exaggeration? Do Skywest ops require crew meals even? Is it crazy to put in seven years and leave on the cusp of upgrade?

7 years is past upgrade. Current upgrades are <4. I upgraded at 5, but waited to hold a west coast line.


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