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jeff122670 01-27-2007 02:36 PM

CFI...does it matter
 
all,

i am wondering if having your CFI ratings is really necessary/important in the hiring process.

the way i understand it and the way it appears is that the CFI ratings are essentially used for time building. do i understand this correctly??

i have right at 3000 hours and i am just wondering if forking over the money to get my CFI ratings is necessary when i really dont plan to use them other than "check a square".

any thoughts on this would be GREATLY appreciated and save me some money...ha.ha.

thanks!

Baronpilot 01-27-2007 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 108827)
all,

i am wondering if having your CFI ratings is really necessary/important in the hiring process.

the way i understand it and the way it appears is that the CFI ratings are essentially used for time building. do i understand this correctly??

i have right at 3000 hours and i am just wondering if forking over the money to get my CFI ratings is necessary when i really dont plan to use them other than "check a square".

any thoughts on this would be GREATLY appreciated and save me some money...ha.ha.

thanks!

If I had 3000 hours I would bypass instructing. Nothing against it but the only reason I'm doing it is so I can go to the regionals quicker. If I could get around it I would.

bluebravo 01-27-2007 02:55 PM

How do you have 3000 hours and not a CFi is what i wanna know.

jeff122670 01-27-2007 02:56 PM

that is what i thought, but i wanted to make sure that it wasnt one of those hidden squares that you had to check off..but i know that 500 hours in the right seat doesnt count for PIC....

thanks for the words...

anyone else have advice??

MustangFa1con 01-27-2007 02:57 PM

I think that actually teaching people is the idea there, not necessarily just having a your cfi...and depending on what you're doing as far as flying right now, getting your cfi can be a pain in the ass (you may really have to get your head in the books)...
3000 hours is a lot of time, depending how you got that time and what you're future goals are, I suppose getting you're cfi and then not using it may not do too much for you.

fire 01-27-2007 02:59 PM

if that 3000 hours is single engine, then it's a useful as logging go-kart time!

MustangFa1con 01-27-2007 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 108833)
that is what i thought, but i wanted to make sure that it wasnt one of those hidden squares that you had to check off..but i know that 500 hours in the right seat doesnt count for PIC....

thanks for the words...

anyone else have advice??

?...500 hours in what right seat = no PIC

...do you mean instructing, cuz that's all PIC (61.51 (e)(3))

G2TT 01-27-2007 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 108827)
all,


the way i understand it and the way it appears is that the CFI ratings are essentially used for time building. do i understand this correctly??

i have right at 3000 hours and i am just wondering if forking over the money to get my CFI ratings is necessary when i really dont plan to use them other than "check a square".

thanks!

Please do everyone in the industry a favor: DO NOT get your C.F.I. There are already too many instructors out there that got their CFI for the sole purpose of building time. People forget that the instructor certificate is to TEACH PEOPLE TO FLY, and building time is a side product of teaching. It's called sharing the love. With 3000 hours you should not need to be a CFI (Unless you really want to teach, in that case good luck) that doesn't want to be there to get a job.

Baronpilot 01-27-2007 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by G2TT (Post 108839)
Please do everyone in the industry a favor: DO NOT get your C.F.I. There are already too many instructors out there that got their CFI for the sole purpose of building time. People forget that the instructor certificate is to TEACH PEOPLE TO FLY, and building time is a side product of teaching. It's called sharing the love. With 3000 hours you should not need to be a CFI (Unless you really want to teach, in that case good luck) that doesn't want to be there to get a job.


Hey, just wanted to add that while I am building time, it is a concern to ensure quality instruction. It is just not something I could do long term and that's why I'll get done as soon as I can. You have to really love instructing a lot to do it long term.

jeff122670 01-27-2007 03:17 PM

being a military, and owning two airplanes and flying since highschool helps get to the 3000 hour mark....

thanks for the words on the CFI.....i would not want to ad myself to the pool and take away a job from someone that either needed to build time or needed the job...

thanks for all of your help guys....wow 8 replies in under 30 min...gotta love that!!

G2TT 01-27-2007 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Baronpilot (Post 108841)
Hey, just wanted to add that while I am building time, it is a concern to ensure quality instruction. It is just not something I could do long term and that's why I'll get done as soon as I can. You have to really love instructing a lot to do it long term.

I'm not saying you can't be a good instructor if you are in it mostly for building time. I don't blame people for not wanting to do it for a career either. I just think that there are many people out there that just go through the motions, and by doing so are doing flight instruction an injustice.

Baronpilot 01-27-2007 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by G2TT (Post 108845)
I'm not saying you can't be a good instructor if you are in it mostly for building time. I don't blame people for not wanting to do it for a career either. I just think that there are many people out there that just go through the motions, and by doing so are doing flight instruction an injustice.

I definately agree with you.:D I have seen that first hand and it's not fair for students to not get quality instruction.

jeff122670 01-27-2007 03:27 PM

i absolutely agree too and i would hate to be a part of THAT problem...

on a spare note, have i told you guys how GREAT mesa is lately...wow, that is an awesome company...


..............(that should get things going...ha.ha.)

Baronpilot 01-27-2007 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 108849)
i absolutely agree too and i would hate to be a part of THAT problem...

on a spare note, have i told you guys how GREAT mesa is lately...wow, that is an awesome company...


..............(that should get things going...ha.ha.)


hahahahaha!!!!!:D

rickair7777 01-27-2007 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 108844)
being a military, and owning two airplanes and flying since highschool helps get to the 3000 hour mark....

thanks for the words on the CFI.....i would not want to ad myself to the pool and take away a job from someone that either needed to build time or needed the job...

thanks for all of your help guys....wow 8 replies in under 30 min...gotta love that!!

I would say that if want to be a career pilot (and have the time and money), go ahead and get it...it will be a good refresher on regs and theory. It is not critical, but is a good resume addition.

However if you do decide to enter the active instructor pool be conscientious about the job you do. Also, as a 3000 hour guy you would have instructing opportunities that low-time cfi's do not, due to credibility and/or insurance.


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