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Items to compare among regionals
In doing my research, I have a short list of things I plan to use to help me compare regional A to regional B, C, etc. Of course, not in this list is the concept of local domicile; we all know that commuting sucks more than being close to home. However, some may not be able to move, so commuting is a must. :(
At any rate, please feel free to add any things you would use to select a place to work, and thanks for your constructive input! Training Pay Reserve Guarantee Monthly Guarantee FO 1st yr pay FO 2nd yr pay Sick days per month Per diem Uniform allowance Hotel (in base) Hotel (out of base) Cancellation pay (your turn) |
In order of importance:
1) Bases, ( because you'll want to live in base) 2) Bases, (because if you can't live in base, you'll want the easiest commute) 3) Bases, (because you don't want to end up in a lousy, uncommuntable base) 4) Projected upgrade time. So yeah. Bases and upgrade time. |
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Originally, I didn't include reserve time and upgrades because they are such elusive targets. But I guess still things that need to be considered, even if they aren't very tangible.
Thanks for the input! |
Originally Posted by Slick111
(Post 2019358)
In order of importance:
1) Bases, ( because you'll want to live in base) 2) Bases, (because if you can't live in base, you'll want the easiest commute) 3) Bases, (because you don't want to end up in a lousy, uncommuntable base) 4) Projected upgrade time. So yeah. Bases and upgrade time. This is what you want to look at for sure ^^^^^^^ However it can be adjusted with upgrade time. For example a crap commute might be justified by a fast upgrade time. Suck it up get your pic time and get the hell out. However going to a regional with a 2 plus year upgrade you'd definitely want to avoid it when dealing with a bad commute. Also there are a few Regionals that are providing hotels in base now for commuters. That could be an easy extra 250 bucks or more in your pocket a month. |
I would think the top 3 things would be Upgrade Time, Domicile, and Quality of Life (QOL).
The order of the 3 depends on you; family, don't wan't move/commute; single, wouldn't mind moving or working with low QOL to get a quick upgrade; or have other income and want QOL. |
Originally Posted by billyho
(Post 2019384)
Suck it up get your pic time and get the hell out.
Drive to work. This job is basically not worth commuting for. |
Originally Posted by Mach Indicator
(Post 2019400)
I would think the top 3 things would be Upgrade Time, Domicile, and Quality of Life (QOL).
The order of the 3 depends on you; family, don't wan't move/commute; single, wouldn't mind moving or working with low QOL to get a quick upgrade; or have other income and want QOL. Think about the "what if" scenario of ending up tethered to carrier X for an extended period longer then planned and whether you can live with that development in the QWL and treatment department. Just my .02............ |
For me, ATL is the closest domicile, and it's still 3.5 hrs away. Commuting will most likely be in my near future, no matter where I decide to hang my hat. I have already resigned myself to that fact. After that, if I still hate it, I can move.
As I said, upgrade and reserve times aren't a very viable target, but I added them to the list, because they ARE things to consider. Hopefully, this list is generic enough for anyone to use to compare potential regionals, not just me. A lot of the good info I have picked up here on APC (domicile, QoL, not commuting, etc.) are still great things to consider, but may not be much of a factor in selecting that first regional for some. One could sit back and prioritize regionals for 6 months, and never make a good decision, or flip a coin today and get really lucky. One thing that IS certain about the industry is that NOTHING is certain, except sucky FO pay! |
Originally Posted by BobJenkins
(Post 2019428)
For me, ATL is the closest domicile, and it's still 3.5 hrs away. Commuting will most likely be in my near future, no matter where I decide to hang my hat. I have already resigned myself to that fact. After that, if I still hate it, I can move.
As I said, upgrade and reserve times aren't a very viable target, but I added them to the list, because they ARE things to consider. Hopefully, this list is generic enough for anyone to use to compare potential regionals, not just me. A lot of the good info I have picked up here on APC (domicile, QoL, not commuting, etc.) are still great things to consider, but may not be much of a factor in selecting that first regional for some. One could sit back and prioritize regionals for 6 months, and never make a good decision, or flip a coin today and get really lucky. One thing that IS certain about the industry is that NOTHING is certain, except sucky FO pay! Then, once you've looked at your commuting options, choose the best paying regionals. Look for scheduling protections like min day or trip/duty rigs, then first/second year FO pay, health care, and see if you can find someone from each airline to talk about what lines look like at their prospective company. |
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