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#2221
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 231
Not sure which other regional allows 6 month FO's to hold a line with 16+ days off a month, but pilots at PSA (a AA WO) are doing that right now. Want at least 10-12 days off in a row every single month? We have first year pilots that do exactly that without using their vacation.
And no junior manning.
#2222
Just be aware that you will not get the same benefits as other pilots. For the AA WO pilots, for instance, they get the exact same benefits as mainline AA pilots.
What the non-WO pilots get is a watered down version.
For instance, an Envoy FO that checks in for a flight exactly 24 hours before it departs will get #1 on the priority list to get a seat. If a mainline CA checks in 23.9 hours before, he will get #2 on the priority list. It is all based on check-in time. Non-WO pilots get put on at the bottom of the list no matter what time they check in and are lucky to get a seat in the back in most cases.
W.O. pilots also get 6 "vacation" passes, which bumps them up in priority, 16 buddy passes, and this year we also get 2 free positive space tickets to anywhere that AA flies. First class upgrades are free for all family members (wife, kids, parents). The only thing that they ever pay is international taxes. Domestic first class travel is 100% free. International is international taxes only.
Round trip, first class from ORD to NRT (Tokyo) is $38.86.
The contract carrier travel benefits are pretty poor.
What the non-WO pilots get is a watered down version.
For instance, an Envoy FO that checks in for a flight exactly 24 hours before it departs will get #1 on the priority list to get a seat. If a mainline CA checks in 23.9 hours before, he will get #2 on the priority list. It is all based on check-in time. Non-WO pilots get put on at the bottom of the list no matter what time they check in and are lucky to get a seat in the back in most cases.
W.O. pilots also get 6 "vacation" passes, which bumps them up in priority, 16 buddy passes, and this year we also get 2 free positive space tickets to anywhere that AA flies. First class upgrades are free for all family members (wife, kids, parents). The only thing that they ever pay is international taxes. Domestic first class travel is 100% free. International is international taxes only.
Round trip, first class from ORD to NRT (Tokyo) is $38.86.
The contract carrier travel benefits are pretty poor.
Not sure which other regional allows 6 month FO's to hold a line with 16+ days off a month, but pilots at PSA (a AA WO) are doing that right now. Want at least 10-12 days off in a row every single month? We have first year pilots that do exactly that without using their vacation.
The priority is listed as follows:
#2223
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 63
The other guys are correct...the policy used to be that you would receive bennies only for the airlines your base supported. As of Jan 2017, that has changed and everyone gets all 3 if they wish (there are some small signup/segment fees associated with each airline so some peeps don't sign up).
Using myself as an example, I am a single (as in not married) dude with a live-in girlfriend. I have her on my Delta bennies as the "domestic partner". With this she gets the same priority as me (S3C). This is below mainline folk but above buddies. It's not great, but we make it work. We travel a lot (I am a "senior" FO and she has a flexible job). The past 3 plus years we have been to 34 countries and have only been "stuck" one night in Brazil. We got out the next day no problem. We are in Delta One (DAL version of First) 90 percent of the time on the long haul stuff (lay-flat beds are a game changer). She also gets all of my ZED fares, which is are super deep discounts on other foreign and domestic airlines. This really helps when traveling abroad (taking DAL to Australia and using Qantas to bounce around for example).
On my United bennies, I have myself and 2 friends. I don't non-rev on UAL often but I do find I am often near the bottom. My 2 buddies travel extensively on United and it seems from their experience DAL is better. They do manage to get upgraded on long hauls but they have to pay a decent fee (usually around 200 bucks).
I just received the American last month since I am a Shuttle guy. I designated another "friend" for the AA bennies. I haven't really used them, but I understand they are the worst of the 3. I do know that there is no way to get upgraded to First for us on AA.
So my scenario in a nutshell:
DAL: Girlfriend unlimited and gets ZEDS (50 dollar annual fee)
UAL: 2 buddies get unlimited travel (I think its 250 annual fee)
AAL: 1 buddy gets unlimited travel (can't remember the fee but it's like $1.55 a leg)
Hope this helps....
Using myself as an example, I am a single (as in not married) dude with a live-in girlfriend. I have her on my Delta bennies as the "domestic partner". With this she gets the same priority as me (S3C). This is below mainline folk but above buddies. It's not great, but we make it work. We travel a lot (I am a "senior" FO and she has a flexible job). The past 3 plus years we have been to 34 countries and have only been "stuck" one night in Brazil. We got out the next day no problem. We are in Delta One (DAL version of First) 90 percent of the time on the long haul stuff (lay-flat beds are a game changer). She also gets all of my ZED fares, which is are super deep discounts on other foreign and domestic airlines. This really helps when traveling abroad (taking DAL to Australia and using Qantas to bounce around for example).
On my United bennies, I have myself and 2 friends. I don't non-rev on UAL often but I do find I am often near the bottom. My 2 buddies travel extensively on United and it seems from their experience DAL is better. They do manage to get upgraded on long hauls but they have to pay a decent fee (usually around 200 bucks).
I just received the American last month since I am a Shuttle guy. I designated another "friend" for the AA bennies. I haven't really used them, but I understand they are the worst of the 3. I do know that there is no way to get upgraded to First for us on AA.
So my scenario in a nutshell:
DAL: Girlfriend unlimited and gets ZEDS (50 dollar annual fee)
UAL: 2 buddies get unlimited travel (I think its 250 annual fee)
AAL: 1 buddy gets unlimited travel (can't remember the fee but it's like $1.55 a leg)
Hope this helps....
#2224
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 924
Short Call Reserve:
Can bid for AM or PM shifts. AM shifts are typically 0300-1300. PM shifts are 1000-2200. May vary by base, I'm not sure. In my base, the company looks for lots of AM shifts, a few PM shifts, and just a couple of Long Call Reservists.
2-hour callout. Timer begins at first attempt to contact by the company - you have 20 minutes to call them back if you miss the first ring.
If the company hasn't assigned you anything by 4 hours prior to your normal release time on the last day of reserve, you are released from duty. This is nice because if you're an AM reserve, you are released by 0900 and basically have the day off.
Like most airlines, most junior guy is assigned first. Assignments work in "buckets" of available time - if a four-day trip needs covered, they look first to see if there are any four-day available reservists. They only split a trip among different pilots if no one is available for all four day.
Long Call Reserve:
Approximately a 12-hour callout. Very useful for commuters.
All assignments for day 1 of your availability period must be on your schedule by 8 pm the night before. No assignments may start earlier than 1300 local on your first day of reserve.
Can be converted into SCR by the company up to three times per month. They must give you notice (I think it's around 12 hours) of when they will do this.
#2226
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 22
Only thing to add, is that within each of the buckets it's first in-first out. So the guy who is the longest from his last worked flight is the first picked. Once a bucket is exhausted, then the company can use whomever. I assume that's when they go to least senior.
#2227
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 924
True. I also found for the time I was on LCR that the trips weren't that great. Maybe it was because you tended to get the trips people most wanted out of? I only bid LCR for one month though, so I'm far from an authority on it!
#2229
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Position: E170 CA/LCA
Posts: 621
That's a loaded question because everything could stop tomorrow. But on average I think about 20-30 people are leaving a month.
#2230
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