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Motoxer517 12-27-2015 12:47 AM

Hrs per month???
 
How many hours per month are the Skywest, envoy, and compass guys getting (block hrs pls)

Pls include the airframe are you on and your position/status(reserve, line)

zondaracer 12-27-2015 05:07 AM

Skywest, line holder, CRJ, Block/Credit: 64/79hrs Oct, 87/101hrs Nov, 76/100hrs Dec block hours. I pick up locals and try to bring my credit up to 90+ hrs each month.

Westernflight 12-27-2015 05:14 AM

SkyWest ORD FO. Haven't been awarded less than 90hrs credit in the last year. Dec 101hrs credit/93 block. Jan 96hrs credit/95 block. Bidding for less flying isn't an option at my seniority yet, but even with the large amount of hours I still usually see 13-15 days off. Just don't say the word CN around us and all is well...

Bob Loblaw 12-27-2015 05:20 AM

Envoy average line is mid-60s, guarentee is 72. Reserve is about 50 if you're junior to 0 if you're senior and don't want to fly, guarantee is 75.

cf105 12-27-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw (Post 2035172)
Envoy average line is mid-60s, guarentee is 72. Reserve is about 50 if you're junior to 0 if you're senior and don't want to fly, guarantee is 75.

Holy cow, that's kind of low compared to the others, not good trying to make minimum $$.

Is offline 12-27-2015 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Westernflight (Post 2035170)
SkyWest ORD FO. Haven't been awarded less than 90hrs credit in the last year. Dec 101hrs credit/93 block. Jan 96hrs credit/95 block. Bidding for less flying isn't an option at my seniority yet, but even with the large amount of hours I still usually see 13-15 days off. Just don't say the word CN around us and all is well...

The reason you're seeing 13-15 off is due to PBS screwing all the senior guys with not awarded/replaced. If they don't do something to fix that they will have a mutiny on their hands.

People haven't been this fired up since the great water bottle debacle and, throw in the sick call bullying it's over the top.

I bid 20% in base and get awarded 95-100 hours credit with 45 or so block each mont, but my high paying trips are replaced and giving to JR people every month.

Westernflight 12-27-2015 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2035204)
The reason you're seeing 13-15 off is due to PBS screwing all the senior guys with not awarded/replaced. If they don't do something to fix that they will have a mutiny on their hands.

People haven't been this fired up since the great water bottle debacle and, throw in the sick call bullying it's over the top.

I bid 20% in base and get awarded 95-100 hours credit with 45 or so block each mont, but my high paying trips are replaced and giving to JR people every month.

While I agree with everything you say, that's not how I get 13-15 days off. I'm ~45% and bid primarily for locals (6 legs if I must) and all the other flying no one else seems to want at this base. There is some big daily credit out there if you want it. Commutable 4 days likely won't get you as much time off.

Not excusing our broken scheduling software. Hoping TCs meeting in the promised land results in something.

AboveAndBeyond 12-27-2015 08:04 AM

This is the great thing about PSA. The schedule flexibility truly is the best in the industry. With the Schedule Adjustment Period, you can fly 65 hours a month if you want, or 98 hours. If you only want 4 day trips, no problem. If you prefer to not work weekends and want all holidays off, you can do that.

As a first year FO, once you hold a line, you can have any day off that you want and fly as much or as little as you want. Personally, I had over a week off for both Thanksgiving and Christmas, as a first year FO, and still credited 90 hours a month.

People say that PSA has a bad contract, but they do not know about the good parts.

WesternSkies 12-27-2015 08:04 AM

I'm impressed with envoys ability to work less.

Motoxer517 12-27-2015 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2035169)
Skywest, line holder, CRJ, Block/Credit: 64/79hrs Oct, 87/101hrs Nov, 76/100hrs Dec block hours. I pick up locals and try to bring my credit up to 90+ hrs each month.

Because I'm still learining
Block = Door closed to door open
Credit = duty hrs or?

zondaracer 12-27-2015 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Motoxer517 (Post 2035274)
Because I'm still learining
Block = Door closed to door open
Credit = duty hrs or?

You can get credit for various things. Some trips have you on a layover for a full day without flying but still get paid. Holidays at Skywest pay an extra 4:12 of credit. Stand ups pay high credit compared to the block. Also, my numbers for December are a bit deceptive because I went to three days of simulator so I didn't get any block but I sure was busy. Lastly, deadheading on a flight doesn't get you any block but you still get credit for it. Other things can get you credit but no block, like a cancelled flight.

aTomatoFlames 12-27-2015 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Motoxer517 (Post 2035274)
Because I'm still learning
Block = Door closed to door open
Credit = duty hrs or?

The easy explanation:

Block = Time you can log (door closes to door open).
Credit = Hours you're paid for.

For me at Compass with 1 year seniority. Average 16 days off and credit 85-90 hours. Pretty decent mixture of trips, but be aware we have 5 days at Compass.

Motoxer517 12-27-2015 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by aTomatoFlames (Post 2035306)
The easy explanation:

Block = Time you can log (door closes to door open).
Credit = Hours you're paid for.

For me at Compass with 1 year seniority. Average 16 days off and credit 85-90 hours. Pretty decent mixture of trips, but be aware we have 5 days at Compass.

When you say 5 days what do you mean?

Motoxer517 12-27-2015 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2035281)
You can get credit for various things. Some trips have you on a layover for a full day without flying but still get paid. Holidays at Skywest pay an extra 4:12 of credit. Stand ups pay high credit compared to the block. Also, my numbers for December are a bit deceptive because I went to three days of simulator so I didn't get any block but I sure was busy. Lastly, deadheading on a flight doesn't get you any block but you still get credit for it. Other things can get you credit but no block, like a cancelled flight.

Well at least your getting paid even when your not flying, my current job is only paid by Hobbs so you can imagine the frustration, also can you explain the 4:12 ratio?

falcon99 12-27-2015 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Motoxer517 (Post 2035393)
Well at least your getting paid even when your not flying, my current job is only paid by Hobbs so you can imagine the frustration, also can you explain the 4:12 ratio?

It means 4 hrs and 12 minutes of pay.

Gjn290 12-27-2015 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Motoxer517 (Post 2035392)
When you say 5 days what do you mean?

Five day trips. It is good for those who commute but it's a long time to be at work.

BobJenkins 12-27-2015 04:40 PM

LOL, you should try working a 14/14 schedule! Days 11-14 suck. But days 15-28 ROCK!!



Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2035414)
Five day trips. It is good for those who commute but it's a long time to be at work.


snippercr 12-27-2015 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2035222)
I'm impressed with envoys ability to work less.

November I flew 3 hours of reserve work plus 2 days I got called for airport SB where I didn't get used. Did 12 hours of OT worth 150%.

So 15 hours work and paid 93. Bid reserve so I'm "senior" on reserve even though only about 1/4 way up total list.

Riverside 12-27-2015 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Motoxer517 (Post 2035392)
When you say 5 days what do you mean?


Seriously? 7 days are in a week, so 5 days you're working.

alaskadrifter 12-27-2015 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by BobJenkins (Post 2035421)
LOL, you should try working a 14/14 schedule! Days 11-14 suck. But days 15-28 ROCK!!

Can confirm, sucks major. Getting a little tired of it, probably jump to a regional when I have the hours.

BobJenkins 12-27-2015 05:23 PM

To each his own. I loved it. A 2-week vacation every month!


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2035434)
Can confirm, sucks major. Getting a little tired of it, probably jump to a regional when I have the hours.


tikicarver 01-06-2016 06:28 PM

At Compass what would a junior line at LAX be?
do the 5 day trips go junior or do all the commuters like them?


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