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SqueeG 01-01-2016 09:12 AM

Reserve Times - Current and Projected
 

Originally Posted by Captyeager (Post 2037479)
I think today's applicants should be asking "how long will i sit reserve" not "how long until upgrade". Since Your average new hire needs to hit that 1000hr mark before upgrade, flying 300 hours a year on reserve will get you there longer than expected.


Originally Posted by JLDWC (Post 2037133)
I know I may be asking for something just short of a miracle on this board, but if we can keep the "my airline is better than your airline" hate, rumors and bs out of this thread, I think it would be helpful for a lot of members. Ideally, only respond if you personally work for that airline.

I know much depends on what base you get assigned, so let's assume most jr. for the purposes of this thread.

What is the current and projected reserve time for your airline at the most junior base?

Thanks!

CBreezy 01-01-2016 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by SqueeG (Post 2038147)
I know much depends on what base you get assigned, so let's assume most jr. for the purposes of this thread.

What is the current and projected reserve time for your airline at the most junior base?

Thanks!

This is literally impossible to project.

rickair7777 01-01-2016 09:43 AM

For any regional new hire at this time, reserve times should be so low as to be negligible unless you're talking about some super-senior Boutique domicile.

Meekrob 01-01-2016 09:53 AM

Still on reserve at Horizon after 10 months in Portland, would still be on reserve in any base.

CloudShredder 01-01-2016 09:54 AM

Definitely an important thought. Also when you sit reserve you tend to make less money... Envoy I know reserve time is years at the moment. Hopefully that changes for them, but right now that is the case. SkyWest unless you're continually moving bases until you get the coveted base of your choice on the west coast (or IAH) you should be a line holder or composite line holder very very quickly. Those are really the only two specifically I know anything about at the moment. I'm curious what reserve time is at Endeavor. I know their pay just shot up. Like-wise Republic. Anyone from those places have any info on reserve time for wondering minds?

Is offline 01-01-2016 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by CloudShredder (Post 2038185)
Definitely an important thought. Also when you sit reserve you tend to make less money... Envoy I know reserve time is years at the moment. Hopefully that changes for them, but right now that is the case. SkyWest unless you're continually moving bases until you get the coveted base of your choice on the west coast (or IAH) you should be a line holder or composite line holder very very quickly. Those are really the only two specifically I know anything about at the moment. I'm curious what reserve time is at Endeavor. I know their pay just shot up. Like-wise Republic. Anyone from those places have any info on reserve time for wondering minds?

At endeavor a six year FO just started holding a line in DTW.

WaterRooster 01-01-2016 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by CloudShredder (Post 2038185)
SkyWest unless you're continually moving bases until you get the coveted base of your choice on the west coast (or IAH) you should be a line holder or composite line holder very very quickly.

Unless you are 175.... 60% reserve in base in ORD right now. Should change by May though

HeyOneTaco 01-01-2016 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2038189)
At endeavor a six year FO just started holding a line in DTW.


Year or month? I've heard only months for a friend on the 200


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Cappo 01-01-2016 10:03 AM

Republic is is Low at the moment I've been told due to their lack of pilots. Know some people that went there recently and the longest one waited almost 2 months that's excellent others about a month. Endeavor I'm not sure about but heard its longer they have a nice deal tho outside of this. Compass is approx 1 month now I know that for sure. Definitely will have a line by 2 months. I've heard envoy is super long from friends there as well and again with this industry you just gotta roll the dice and hope for the best because everything can change by the time you get here. Goodluck


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CloudShredder 01-01-2016 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2038193)
Unless you are 175.... 60% reserve in base in ORD right now. Should change by May though

Thanks for the correction. Yeah CRJ is where my statement holds true. E-175 is way over staffed in ORD at the moment.

prex8390 01-01-2016 11:31 AM

AWAC I was told 3-6 months. More like closer to a year unless you're ORF, then about 5-7 monthes. This should drop with upgrades picking up again. Stay away from LGA as a FO for the time being

Dhood84 01-01-2016 12:24 PM

3 weeks on reserve. Holding a line in ORD starting today.....Gojet.

DH

Phteven 01-01-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Meekrob (Post 2038184)
Still on reserve at Horizon after 10 months in Portland, would still be on reserve in any base.


Over a year in BOI, on composite reserve but just barely. Guy a number above me held a line in the last bid. This is a little inflated right now though, we're overstaffed by 30-35 FO's right now and have done very little upgrading in the past few months. Next bid there are 16 upgrading, which is a big change from the past couple bids.

Best guess of a forecast for new hires right now is probably 5-8 months on reserve, depending on base. As far as utilization goes, the SEA and PDX guys are flying a lot more than the rest of the bases. Buddy of mine in SEA says he gets called about 80% of the time he is on reserve right now. Out in BOI I've been called about 25% of the time, even less on AM reserve.

Of course, YMMV.

Is offline 01-01-2016 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco (Post 2038196)
Year or month? I've heard only months for a friend on the 200


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Years. He is pre bankruptcy and just started holding a standup line. JFK is junior

WMUFlyboy1 01-01-2016 02:02 PM

Current Endeavor who got on the line in October. I was very junior in my class and will hold a line either February or March.

HeyOneTaco 01-01-2016 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1 (Post 2038291)
Current Endeavor who got on the line in October. I was very junior in my class and will hold a line either February or March.


What base and equipment?


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WMUFlyboy1 01-01-2016 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco (Post 2038294)
What base and equipment?


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DTW 200. Should only be 3.5-4.5 months for me.

HeyOneTaco 01-01-2016 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1 (Post 2038336)
DTW 200. Should only be 3.5-4.5 months for me.


Any info for 900s at DTW or other bases?


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MitsubishiPilot 01-01-2016 03:32 PM

CommutAir - Negligible, doubling in size in 20 months starting at $36/ hr. If you can get the call, take it.

snackysmores 01-01-2016 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Phteven (Post 2038260)
Over a year in BOI, on composite reserve but just barely. Guy a number above me held a line in the last bid. This is a little inflated right now though, we're overstaffed by 30-35 FO's right now and have done very little upgrading in the past few months. Next bid there are 16 upgrading, which is a big change from the past couple bids.

I thought it was supposed to be 40 from that CRF? Or is that just another Alaska lie.

JLAMS16 01-01-2016 04:33 PM

If junior at OO and West Coast based on the ERJ,or want to be, expect to be on reserve for a long, long time. All movement is via transition bids, a lot of SFO and LAX CRJ FO's jumping over to the ERJ.

Taylor814ce 01-01-2016 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jbone22 (Post 2038371)
If junior at OO and West Coast based on the ERJ,or want to be, expect to be on reserve for a long, long time. All movement is via transition bids, a lot of SFO and LAX CRJ FO's jumping over to the ERJ.

Why are they jumping to ERJ? Pay the same, no?

Alfred E Newman 01-01-2016 05:09 PM

AWAC DCA: 9 Months from start of IOE.

JLAMS16 01-01-2016 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Taylor814ce (Post 2038372)
Why are they jumping to ERJ? Pay the same, no?

IMO, right or wrong......The new plane, able to hold a line once done with training and a recent training event all in one.
Not sure about classes and new hires as far as which air frame they get to choose now. Plenty of transition bids to cover all current and announced future ERJ fliyng.
Again, just an unofficial observation.

Jbone

word302 01-01-2016 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Taylor814ce (Post 2038372)
Why are they jumping to ERJ? Pay the same, no?

Pays more. Usually more efficient flying/longer legs. More pay for less work. I'm sure there are some trying to get a fresh type for resume polishing.

Future Cpt Kirk 01-01-2016 07:01 PM

TSA: stared IOE in October. Was on reserve Nov/Dec with an STL base. Secured IAD (my base of choice) and a line 1/1/16. Reserve two months total. Should be like that for any new hire here. If you want RDU, you may not sit reserve at all.

Phteven 01-01-2016 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2038345)
I thought it was supposed to be 40 from that CRF? Or is that just another Alaska lie.


Nope, the CRF just said "potentially many upgrades." I don't think we would even have the training capacity here for 40 upgrades in a single bid. The preliminary upgrade plan was 20 a bid for the next few bids, the first is now 16 and the next could be more or less but probably somewhere in that range. We'll see.

Checkfoo 01-02-2016 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2038189)
At endeavor a six year FO just started holding a line in DTW.

By choice then. Seven months of reserve on the 9. Got a line now and am a late 2014 hire.

reLAXed 01-02-2016 06:01 AM

Compass I finished IOE mid month, reserve the rest of it, reserve the next bidding month, then a line. 1.5 months for LAX FO reserve, other bases are a little longer.

Fleron270 01-02-2016 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman (Post 2038381)
AWAC DCA: 9 Months from start of IOE.

This sucks!! Hope it comes down.

ClickClickBoom 01-02-2016 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Fleron270 (Post 2038569)
This sucks!! Hope it comes down.

3 years ago, it was who is hiring, today it's complaining about reserve length........

Turbosina 01-02-2016 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jbone22 (Post 2038371)
If junior at OO and West Coast based on the ERJ,or want to be, expect to be on reserve for a long, long time. All movement is via transition bids, a lot of SFO and LAX CRJ FO's jumping over to the ERJ.

Are you looking at the same standing bid list I am? Only a few CRJ FOs in those two bases have bids in for the jungle bus...

Phteven 01-02-2016 09:56 PM

Reserve Times - Current and Projected
 

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 2038620)
3 years ago, it was who is hiring, today it's complaining about reserve length........


In three years it'll be complaining about majors that require an ATP.

Alfred E Newman 01-03-2016 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Fleron270 (Post 2038569)
This sucks!! Hope it comes down.

That was for DCA...could have held a line 4 or 5 months sooner at ORF. PHL and LGA I'm not sure about.

JLAMS16 01-03-2016 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2038825)
Are you looking at the same standing bid list I am? Only a few CRJ FOs in those two bases have bids in for the jungle bus...

31 and growing for SFO.
38 and growing for LAX.
Once Delta bennies are announced that number will increase dramatically...
Pretty much have those bases covered for a while.
Again, just an observation from someone Jr. trying to hold a West Coast line. Not going to happen any time soon.

Jbone

SqueeG 01-07-2016 06:49 AM

Here's a quick summary from Page 1 to present.

These are reserve times for FO's (not CA's), and are approximations as times vary by seniority of base and aircraft type (if applicable).

Please correct or update any bad or outdated info. Thanks!

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Horizon - 10 months
Envoy - years (literally) to hold a line (but coming down)
SkyWest - 1 to 3 months for CRJ, 1 yr or more for E170
Republic - 1 to 2 months
Compass - 1 to 2 months
AWAC - 6 to 9 months
GoJet - 3 weeks
Endeavor - 3 to 8 months
CommutAir - weeks if not immediate line
TSA - 1 to 2 months


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