PBS allows the individual pilot to wave contract protections to get a schedule they want. If it don't then the company could build the exact same schedules for everyone and distribute. They efficiency is letting you be happy to wave your contract protections.
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
(Post 2058327)
PBS allows the individual pilot to wave contract protections to get a schedule they want. If it don't then the company could build the exact same schedules for everyone and distribute. They efficiency is letting you be happy to wave your contract protections.
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
(Post 2058327)
PBS allows the individual pilot to wave contract protections to get a schedule they want. If it don't then the company could build the exact same schedules for everyone and distribute. They efficiency is letting you be happy to wave your contract protections.
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
(Post 2057988)
Just out of curiosity, are there any regionals that still bid hard lines?
PSA does line bidding, but afterwards has what is called a Schedule Adjustment Period (SAP) where round 1 line holders are able to take trips from their line and trade them away. You can trade even, trade down and work less hours, trade up for more hours, or you can trade down then trade right back up to pick up hours at a premium. This in theory is great, but it hasn't been working properly the last half of 2015, only recently seen fixes and improvement. |
Originally Posted by snackysmores
(Post 2057997)
Horizon has SAP and line bidding, but we're giving that up for PBS in Feb 2017. At least I can control my schedule 'til then.
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2058146)
ExpressJet on the ERJ has hard line bidding for line holders and PBS bidding for reserves and relief/composite lines. The CRJ side is all PBS.
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2058146)
One of the biggest complaints (from the pilot side) and benefits (from the company side) is that the schedule building is much more efficient and leaves little, if any open time vs. hard line bidding. I know this is anecdotal, but I just switched to a PBS airline and as I build a better understanding of how PBS "thinks" I have had decent luck bidding within PBS and getting what I want even though I am very junior. My biggest complaint however, is that there is very little open time with which to improve/modify my schedule. Using next month as an example, I got all the days off I wanted (my main priority) and all my trips are commutable (second priority) except one which is not commutable on either end. There is nothing I can do about it because there are no trips to trade on those days and I would prefer not to work on the days that there are trips available. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2058401)
A little cynical are we?
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins
(Post 2058611)
Why am I cynical? How can the PBS computer build any different lines than the hard line computer if it's abiding by the same rules. Don't get me wrong sure the pilot has some wiggle room, but where is the company's savings. Schedules are built by the rules or their not.
In the end, a PBS system saves the company significant money. Roughly 10% vs line bidding in end costs. Big thing comes down to being adequately staffed, having pilot control of the pairings and PBS line construction, and overall contractual rules. If any of those are missing, PBS can be rough on the pilot group. It also really helps to be senior, but everyone is aware of that regardless of PBS or line bidding. |
Originally Posted by FirstClass
(Post 2058548)
In my opinion, PSA has the best bidding out of all the contract airlines I'm aware of.
PSA does line bidding, but afterwards has what is called a Schedule Adjustment Period (SAP) where round 1 line holders are able to take trips from their line and trade them away. You can trade even, trade down and work less hours, trade up for more hours, or you can trade down then trade right back up to pick up hours at a premium. This in theory is great, but it hasn't been working properly the last half of 2015, only recently seen fixes and improvement. |
If I were bidding reserve, could I bid all my reserve days in a row. So If I am guaranteed 11 days off a month, could I bed reserve for the first 19 days straight in order to guarantee my time off as 11 consecutive days? Just curious as I have not started with an airline yet.
Second question: I'm in the military and trying to figure how drilling as a reservist will work out. If I take 5 days of military leave, and normally I'm guaranteed 75 hours a month. Will I get a schedule that is 5 days shorter and thus prorated for less hours per month of pay? If so, I'm thinking of clumping my days off together so I can drill then and not lose pay from the company. |
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