A Message for ENY potential hires
02-01-2016, 10:35 AM
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Dog goes "woof"
Cat goes "meow"
Bird goes "tweet"
And mouse goes "squeek"
Cow goes "moo"
Frog goes "croak"
And the elephant goes "toot"
Ducks say "quack"
And fish go "blub"
And the seal goes "ow ow ow"
But there's one sound
That no one knows
What does the fox say?
Cat goes "meow"
Bird goes "tweet"
And mouse goes "squeek"
Cow goes "moo"
Frog goes "croak"
And the elephant goes "toot"
Ducks say "quack"
And fish go "blub"
And the seal goes "ow ow ow"
But there's one sound
That no one knows
What does the fox say?
02-01-2016, 10:46 AM
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 787
Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
I guess when you can't refute the facts, and/ or they don't fit your narrative, you make a response like ^^^?
In the mean time, we hope to have finally put to rest the issue which affects all of us. For far too long we have been left with no direction, no guidance...as to what does the fox say? Today, we have that answer:
Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!"
What the fox say?
02-01-2016, 04:37 PM
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Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by Skyvector
Dog goes "woof"
Cat goes "meow"
Bird goes "tweet"
And mouse goes "squeek"
Cow goes "moo"
Frog goes "croak"
And the elephant goes "toot"
Ducks say "quack"
And fish go "blub"
And the seal goes "ow ow ow"
But there's one sound
That no one knows
What does the fox say?
Cat goes "meow"
Bird goes "tweet"
And mouse goes "squeek"
Cow goes "moo"
Frog goes "croak"
And the elephant goes "toot"
Ducks say "quack"
And fish go "blub"
And the seal goes "ow ow ow"
But there's one sound
That no one knows
What does the fox say?
It's not a good time to be a jackal........especially an Envoy jackal.
02-02-2016, 05:55 AM
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 338
Originally Posted by Skyvector
...we have high hopes for charlie bucket to enter our lexicon at some future junction.
It won't happen soon if ENY continues to stagnate and meter. Ironically if they'd put out a CA bid and let 50% go, their predictions might come true!
02-02-2016, 07:25 AM
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,054
"Fact Checker
In order to meet Captain Wilson’s 2.5 year upgrade plan a new hire pilot’s relative seniority needs to go from 0% to approximately 40% in that time frame. Mr. Wilson’s announcement of this plan was made May 29, 2015 and the following focuses on a pilot who we will call, “First Officer Charlie Bucket”, hired immediately after the claim was originally made. We used the assumptions of the most junior CA being at 40% relative seniority (as it is now) and the airline staying the same size as it is today.
When we compare our 7-15-2015 Official Seniority List with the latest official Seniority List from January, we are able to get a sense as to where we started, where we are, and where we are headed.
A 1.33% relative seniority rate of change per month (40% total increase required dived by 30 months) is required on day one of training for a new hire to upgrade in 2.5 years at any airline where the junior captain is around 40% seniority like we find at Envoy. Since the announcement, Charlie Bucket has seen a relative seniority increase of 4.08%, which is approximately 0.68% per month, an approximately half of what is required. Due to this stagnation, FO Charlie now has some significant catching up to do to attain a 2.5-year upgrade. Every month that goes by, it becomes more and more difficult to attain this goal.
In order to maintain a 1.33% rate of change Envoy would need to hire 805 pilots by the end of 2017. 34 new hires per month will be required, at a minimum, moving forward.
We hired 88 in the last 6 months of 2015."
In order to meet Captain Wilson’s 2.5 year upgrade plan a new hire pilot’s relative seniority needs to go from 0% to approximately 40% in that time frame. Mr. Wilson’s announcement of this plan was made May 29, 2015 and the following focuses on a pilot who we will call, “First Officer Charlie Bucket”, hired immediately after the claim was originally made. We used the assumptions of the most junior CA being at 40% relative seniority (as it is now) and the airline staying the same size as it is today.
When we compare our 7-15-2015 Official Seniority List with the latest official Seniority List from January, we are able to get a sense as to where we started, where we are, and where we are headed.
A 1.33% relative seniority rate of change per month (40% total increase required dived by 30 months) is required on day one of training for a new hire to upgrade in 2.5 years at any airline where the junior captain is around 40% seniority like we find at Envoy. Since the announcement, Charlie Bucket has seen a relative seniority increase of 4.08%, which is approximately 0.68% per month, an approximately half of what is required. Due to this stagnation, FO Charlie now has some significant catching up to do to attain a 2.5-year upgrade. Every month that goes by, it becomes more and more difficult to attain this goal.
In order to maintain a 1.33% rate of change Envoy would need to hire 805 pilots by the end of 2017. 34 new hires per month will be required, at a minimum, moving forward.
We hired 88 in the last 6 months of 2015."
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