Systemized

Not that is matters but I think that guy was hired into the usair side when usair was doing the hiring.

AA is not hiring a lot of the street and the ones of the street are mostly military or well connected. Usair hired mostly average joe regional pilots.

UPDRAFT

It must be priceless.....Last Fedex class had one.

Hate to break the news to you guy but the big boys don't give sh*^t what crap RJ ops your coming out of....they are all the same to them.

wmupilot85

And that's the exact reason why this part of the industry is a crap hole. People think it should only be a stepping stone, and could careless what happens in it. Maybe if we stepped away from that mentality, we could get some actual gains for the regionals.

schmohawk

Exactly , not everyone is guranteed a call from the majors , no matter how many are supposed to retire there. I'd rather spend another 2 years as an FO at a decent place than suck it up and pray for a call from the big three that may never come.

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gojo

Exactly, it's finally starting to happen. Although it might be a little too late. With the cost of college and flight training compensation needs to be better in order to attract new pilots to the industry

1stCivDivPilot

You say that like regionals were meant to be anything but a crap hole industry. They exist because the majors want the cheapest feed they can get and the pilots at the majors want to protect their income. Until 2001 the regionals were just a stepping stone and everyone was fine with that. The industry tanked and suddenly everyone wanted the rules to change. Go ahead, make amazing strides to make your regional a decent place to work for a decent salary. Then watch all your flying go somewhere else. Or convince every regional pilot group to unite and "hold the line" just to see a start up come along and under cut everyone. The rules haven't changed and neither have the tactics. Get your time and move on.

gojo

Alright Einstein, what're your suggestions for making it an attractive career for new pilots? you will start to see a reduction in flying at both levels if there isn't enough bodies to replace the massive retirements at mainline. There are too many other careers where the rate of return on investing the kind of money it takes to complete college and flight training these days.

1stCivDivPilot

Well Nancy, you don't. You keep it unattractive for a little while longer and force mainline to take the flying back. "Regionals" will exist but won't be doing 50-60% of the commercial flying. Even if pay at the regionals was suddenly doubled, it's still years before all the new bright eyed, bushy tailed new pilots will be qualified. The regionals need pilots now.

If you're riding out your regional and not looking to move on, you've decided the crasppy industry is good enough where it's at. You've decided the garbage pay and contracts are enough because of some nonmonetary quality of life gain. You've decided your overall compensation is enough. Why would they consider giving you more?

Mainline will never have a staffing issue. If all the flying was absorbed by mainline tomorrow, they will be just fine for the few years it will take for pilots to get through college and their ATP. People will enter the industry and incur the expense for $70 an hour.

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Lol @ haters.

bkey79

Not true. A friend of mine went from Great Lakes, to CFQO at TSA to American. Started in December.