Compass Updates - Saga Continues

Closed Thread Subscribe

Page 335 of 1327

335

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

01-23-2017, 10:24 AM

#3341

TJBrass

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Mar 2016

Posts: 318

The Tarmac Delay Program gives the captain discretion when passenger safety in at issue.

01-23-2017, 10:25 AM

#3342

SigHansen

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Mar 2015

Posts: 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg

Dispatch has the authority to declare an emergency. The ACARS they sent implied that dispatch had declared the emergency. As the pilot, would you use your emergency authority to over ride their emergency authority and not comply with the ACARS?

Edit: also apparently I was wrong and previous post. Several news sources say the airplane was indeed evacuated.

The Chicago media also said our plane had an engine fire at the gate in MDW just because it had two fire trucks parked next to it. But there was no such fire. Don't put faith in what you read in news.

01-23-2017, 10:28 AM

#3343

GoHomeLeg

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2014

Posts: 338

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peoloto

They directed the captain to declare. There was NO emergency except for the possibility of Compass going bankrupt due to fines. Which at the end of the day I hope they do still get fined for this idiotic stunt.

The way I interpret it (the actual ACARS) was dispatch declared and directed the pilot to relay the declaration over the radio while blowing the slides.

01-23-2017, 10:29 AM

#3344

Peoloto

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Sep 2015

Posts: 631

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg

The way I interpret it (the actual ACARS) was dispatch declared and directed the pilot to relay the declaration over the radio while blowing the slides.

And you think you're the only one with the picture? Good luck being a puppet if you think blindly following that is smart.

01-23-2017, 10:33 AM

#3345

Fpmx772

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Sep 2014

Posts: 1,182

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have planes on the ground for more than 3hrs during the Delta melt down a few months ago? I don't recall and doors being blown then...what makes this any different from that one?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-23-2017, 10:34 AM

#3346

GoHomeLeg

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2014

Posts: 338

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peoloto

And you think you're the only one with the picture? Good luck being a puppet if you think blindly following that is smart.

Which way makes more of point to Compass, the public (news sources), and the FAA? Taking ANOTHER 3+ hour DOT fine or blowing the slides and creating scene? Hopefully now things will actually change and stairs (at a minimum) will be made available at airports.

01-23-2017, 10:36 AM

#3347

Cpstorm

Line Holder

Joined APC: Dec 2016

Posts: 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg

The way I interpret it (the actual ACARS) was dispatch declared and directed the pilot to relay the declaration over the radio while blowing the slides.

Regardless if no emergency exists no emergency authority exists. Passengers on a climate controlled airplane for 4 plus hours is not an emergency! In fact passengers are on airplanes for 15 plus hours every single day.

A captain can delegate everything he/she wants except for ultimate responsibility. You are ultimately responsible for the safety and care of your passengers. In addition our SMS clearly empowers us all to stop any operation from continuing in the interest of safety.

Let's all remember as airmen here the duty we have to our passengers and crew members. SOC can not order you to do anything that is not fundamentally not the safest course of action.

This is a black eye on our reputation but also a great learning experience on what it means to be a leader and a captain.

01-23-2017, 10:40 AM

#3348

Fpmx772

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Sep 2014

Posts: 1,182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpstorm

I agree. I checked the FOM and I don't see anywhere in there that says, declare an emergency when on the ground for more than 3hrs!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk