You're perfectly clear, in both your opinion and your lack of understanding of the science of fatigue. Four hours of sleep is simply not adequate for a full duty day and the science says the individual is the least capable of correctly judging their actual fatigue state. Commuting in a "red eye" is poor judgement and you are really rationalizing your irresponsibility.

GF

Sorry, not buying that. What you are describing is not only irresponsible but extremely selfish. I'm already hesitant about putting myself and my family on airlines that notoriously operate with inexperienced crews, mainly due to poor judgement. In all honesty, please think about the passengers and crew who are trusting you to report for duty well-rested. You're a Captain...act like one.

That is exactly why I fly 135 vs. 121. I spoke with many 121 pilots who told me the commuting game has now become a trip to the casino every time they would try to get to work. Sometimes it's a winner, sometimes it's a loser. I'd love to fly 121 but I will not move to DTW or EWR or MSP to do it just to be "in base" and make wages that would only be sustainable in the rural southern states. Now, I let the company figure out how I will get to work and all that commute time is on-duty time. Positive space travel: no jumpseating, no guessing, no headaches. I have seen pilots sweat it out waiting at the gate wondering if they'll get to work. That, to me, is not right.

It's insane is what it is.

You sir are a moron and I cannot believe someone made you a captain.

DH

NEVER happen. But, I do believe that airlines should be required to pay COLA based on where pilots are based...but again. NEVER happening.

A COLA will never happen because you'd have to negotiate it and then you'd need support from the majority of the Union which is probably not based in the high cost city


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If you're moving on the company dime, you're on duty. That is jut the way it is and that would make the idea of home basing at an airline very difficult. Honestly, with a commuter clause, I never stressed too much about getting to work. Tried twice, called the company. No harm, no foul.

The biggest stress for me was the never knowing when I'd get home. I think the best thing the airlines could do is offer positive space home on the first flight after your return to base. It's just tacking a DH on to your schedule and since it would have to be negotiated in to the contract, the Union could agree that that one flight goes unpaid.

Another stipulation that would help the company would be that they are only required to do a single leg and that it must be serviced by the parent company of regional you work for.