Eagle changes recruitment policies
 

New mins 800 total and 100 multi. Also The training program will be adjusted to help newhires through training. The final checkride will be held to the same standard but training will be more newhire friendly. Eagle is allowing newhires to find out base assingments prior to training, The company has also announced that it expects the upgradetime to drop significantly. All of this information was emailed to our company email accounts. I tried to copy and paste it but was unable to. If anybody knows how to do this please post the email.

800 total? Great. There's another year of instructing if I decide to go Eagle. Will this be a strict min level like skywest's 1000tt or will there be exceptions for bridge programs?

There are exceptions for bridge programs. Eagle has identified they have renewed bridge programs with schools and have added additional bridge programs. No specifics were mentioned in the email. Eagle also recently annouced a change in the training program to allow senior Embraer FO's to upgrade in the Embraer in half the time that it used to take. This is a sign that the company is expecting the list to move rapidly in the near future. American has increased the furlough call backs to 30 a month and has said it will raise it to 40 in the near future.

Here is a copy of the email

Attention All American Eagle Pilots
Re: New Hire Status Update

As You Are Aware, American Eagle Is
Actively Recruiting New Hire Pilots. Our
Current Projection Needs Are for 60
New Hires Per Month. This Activity Is A
result Of The Recall Of Flowback Pilots
To Aa, activation Of Additional Saabs And
Normal Attrition. All Of This Activity Will
Result In Upgrade And Transition
Opportunities For Current Eagle Pilots.

To Help Meet Our Recruiting Needs We
Are Taking Numerous Steps: We Have
Entered Or Revised Current Bridge
Agreements With A Great Number Of
Credited Aviation Schools. These
Agreements Allow For Applicants To Be
Hired At Eagle With Less Than Our
Normal Hiring Minimums, Based On Their
Schools Programs. Our Recruiting
Department Has Hired Additional
Recruiters, And Reviewed All Internal
Processes To Improve The Flow Rate,
Reduce Administrative Burden And Keep
Us Competitive With Other Airlines. We
Are Also More Flexible In Allowing New
Hires A Choice Of Domicile, With A
Confirmation Prior To Training.

The Next Step We Are Taking Is To Lower
The Minimum Time Requirements For
Applicants To 800 Hours Of Total Time And
100 Hours Of Multi Engine. This Will Also
Allow Us To Compete With Other
Regional Airlines. I Have Our Staff At The
Training Department Reviewing All Of
Our Training Programs, To Determine
Changes They Feel Necessary To Ensure
Our New Hires Meet The High Standards
We Have For Our Line Pilots. While Initial
Requirements May Be Lower, Our High
Standards For Successful Completion
Remain Unaltered.

We Have A Lot Of Positive Things
Happening. Please Continue To Refer
Friends And Acquaintances To American
Eagle. Fast-growing Regionals Promise
Lower Time To Captain, But We All Know
That Changes Occur Quickly In This
Business, Which Can Radically Alter What
Might Happen In Two To Three Years.
Eagle Represents The Opportunity To
Learn From And Fly With The Best In The
Industry From A Carrier With An
Established And Productive Network.

Thanks And Feel Free To Contact Me With
Any Comments Or Questions
xxx xxxxxxx

It's happening. Take a look at the post I made under SkyWest Benefits started by B767.

Please tell me you are not b!tching about having to log only 800TT before getting into a 121 jet cockpit. You guys have no clue. I got my first commuter job in '97 flying the Beech 1900. I had 1400/400 and was at the low end of my class. You won't find a lot of sympathy from most of us, nor should you.

What is the training timeline at Eagle? Also, what are some of the details as far as housing and pay during training?

Pay during training is the highest in the regionals. Sadly, the new contract makes the hotel double occupancy.

Training about 2 months.

Hmmm, suppose you want the LGA domicile (that's an EMJ base only).

Will they put you in a class that has LGA-EMJ and GURANTEE you will get that assignment *before* coming to ground school on day 1?

That's the way it sounds, implementation details have not been presented. I'd suggest you apply asap, get the job offer, and then make darn sure you're guaranteed the domicile (if it's that important to you) before you accept a class date. If you show up day 1 and they say "sorry, you're going to LAX in the Saab" then I guess you can go home if you're unwilling to commute for a year 'til you can switch airplanes. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

New info on minimums and domicile policy here:

http://www.americaneaglecareers.com/pilots.html

Good luck!

Hey Eagle employees, check out the thread on a DFW crashpad. I am looking for a roommate.

Would they hire with 700/100? I have a friend on the inside as a FO also.

if you're from a bridge program, you'd be fine

If you're from a bridge program they'll hire you with 400/100. It makes me want to puke.

Bridge
 

I haven't seen 400/100....I have seen 400/200.

Older guys like me?
 

Just wondering if Eagle is hiring any older guys like myself, 46. Especially with the prospect of the retirement age going to 65. I realize it would probably nix me flowing through to AA, but that is not a big deal to me. I already beat their minimums, 1100TT 100 Multi. I was fortunate enough to retire from my previous profession at an early age, so the low pay is not a factor. Always dreamed of a career in aviation. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Your definitly hirable. We have plently of older FO's.

That is all we need. Another pilot who doesn't care how much they make. There are too many people in this industry with your attitude already.

Pilotrod, I understand how you personally feel about the pay. If you want other pilots to even speak to you it means that you will have to fight alongside them for improvements even though you personally may not need them. 99% of the people you will be flying with really do need the money. By the way, don't ever voice the fact that the low pay does not bother you around other pilots. You would not get a nice response from most of them. So again, it's fine if you want to fly as long as you don't advocate lowering the bar.

If you care so much about your pay?
 

Then perhaps you should choose a profession that pays well. You may think you are superman, but you are not. You must be a union guy, a dieing breed. I like you guys that think if it wasn't for rich guys and kids wanting to work, then "hard" working guys like yourself could get rich. You must be a democrat. Ever wonder why some people are successful in life? I'm sure you attribute it all to fate, luck, timing etc. Some people blame others for their position in life, others take control of their destiny. Keep blaming others for your fate, and you will have settled for the fate others have set for you.

I'm a republican and believe in hard work...and believe me I'd be p!ssed if I was busting my balls to get better pay only to have the guy next to me that already made enough to retire saying "Eh...it doesn't really matter to me so it must not mean anything to you" :mad:

At no time did I say....
 

That you should not strive to improve your pay. Your implication that I am somehow a "scab" in union parlance, because I can get by on the starting wage at a regional, just verifies what I am saying. You guys act like someone put a gun to your head and said "you will be an airline pilot" I have a lot of respect for pilots, I am one, though evidently some of you think you are elevated to god like status once you put on a uniform. It is a free country last time I checked, I thought people hired you because they needed you, not because out of the kindness of their hearts they wanted to give you a job. What pay I choose to work for is my business, not yours. You remind me of a friend who is a school teacher, has a masters degree, unlike many pilots. He constantly complains about teachers salaries. I want to ask him, why did you become a teacher, you knew going in what they made? I hate to break it to some of you, but the days of the $350,000 per year captains pay with $1,000,000.00 retirement packages are gone. Hate to be the one to break it to you. You better like what you are doing, because all the finger pointing and excuse making in the world won't change that.

The industry is what it is. Please trust me on this, if you go in there running your mouth about how the low pay is just great people WILL ABSOLUTELY HATE YOU AND DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE YOU MISERABLE.

At no time did I say....
 

That you should not strive to improve your pay. Your implication that I am somehow a "scab" in union parlance, because I can get by on the starting wage at a regional, just verifies what I am saying. You guys act like someone put a gun to your head and said "you will be an airline pilot" I have a lot of respect for pilots, I am one, though evidently some of you think you are elevated to god like status once you put on a uniform. It is a free country last time I checked, I thought people hired you because they needed you, not because out of the kindness of their hearts they wanted to give you a job. What pay I choose to work for is my business, not yours. You remind me of a friend who is a school teacher, has a masters degree, unlike many pilots. He constantly complains about teachers salaries. I want to ask him, why did you become a teacher, you knew going in what they made? I hate to break it to some of you, but the days of the $350,000 per year captains pay with $1,000,000.00 retirement packages are gone. Hate to be the one to break it to you. You better like what you are doing, because all the finger pointing and excuse making in the world won't change that.

I think the moral of the story is this: Do (vote) what's best for the pilot group as a whole - not yourself. During our contract negotiations in '04 at XJT, I knew of several guys that either didn't need the money or would only be at the company for a minimal time under the contract because of retirement. Out of curiousity, I would ask them about what they thought of the TA. They all said that it didn't matter to them so they would either abstain from voting because they didn't feel it was fair for them to influence the vote or they'd vote with the majority.

Bottom line is just because a few people can/want/don't mind working under a lesser contract when a superior contract is attainable, do what's best for the whole pilot group.

I understand your point.
 

I understand your point, totally. I guess my point is that I find it somewhat hypocritical that some of these guys like BASSLAYER are actually upset that others are willing to take a job a low entry level salary, when they did the very same thing. I think the starting pay is ridiculous, but I know that going in. BASSLAYER just seems like he is automatically resentful of any older pilots who may have been successful elsewhere, and are wanting to pursue a new career in "his" industry.

Yeah, what he said.

anybody off the top of their head know the requirements for bridge programs.. I can just ask my school but a friend did and they did'nt really say anything

I think it varies for each school. Your school must have an agreement with Eagle HR. I have no idea if ERAU does and/or what the requirements are for them. I'm sure they must work with you guys, press a little harder on your dept manager.

Ah.. I'm speechless. Good luck to you, your going to do very well.