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musketeer 03-22-2016 10:32 AM

MSP
 
Can a pilot from Skywest, Endeavor, and Compass let me know their junior lineholder's DOH for MSP for their respective company, please?

Jvw700 03-22-2016 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by musketeer (Post 2094047)
Can a pilot from Skywest, Endeavor, and Compass let me know their junior lineholder's DOH for MSP for their respective company, please?

For skywest, right out of training. MSP is our most junior base and has doubled in size over the last 2 years.

disillusioned 03-22-2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2094051)
For skywest, right out of training. MSP is our most junior base and has doubled in size over the last 2 years.

Plus you can't be on reserve if you don't have any reserve lines. Most people bid out of MSP since that is where all the new hires are placed. If you want or live in MSP, you would probably enjoy pretty good seniority immediately.

mobius27 03-22-2016 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 2094051)
For skywest, right out of training. MSP is our most junior base and has doubled in size over the last 2 years.

Adding to this, I was hired at skywest late April of 14 and I bid below 20% in MSP. Been able to hold 700/900 fairly consistently the last 6 months.

Jvw700 03-22-2016 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2094055)
Plus you can't be on reserve if you don't have any reserve lines. Most people bid out of MSP since that is where all the new hires are placed. If you want or live in MSP, you would probably enjoy pretty good seniority immediately.

I know some guys that have picked up and moved from the west coast for the better QOL in MSP.....

CFin 03-22-2016 10:55 AM

I don't have the specific date, but reserve on the -200 MSP at 9E is around 2-3 months and 8-9 months on the -900. Plus, all the training is done at the airport or in Eagan and you'll make 50k+ your first year. PM me if you have any specific questions.

msprj2 03-22-2016 12:09 PM

I wouldn't let quickest msp base be your biggest reason to decide on which
airline. I'd imagine that a phone call to scheduling before you commuted to
your domicile could get you to sit rsv in msp or at least a DH to pick up a trip.

phalanxo 03-22-2016 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by musketeer (Post 2094047)
Can a pilot from Skywest, Endeavor, and Compass let me know their junior lineholder's DOH for MSP for their respective company, please?

At Compass it looks like the most jr FO at MSP held it out of training, their DOH isn't on the seniority list as we don't have our April one yet. Funny how times change as it used to be very senior... that is about as low as I've ever seen it. Jr Lineholder would be 10/15/15 hire on a CDO line. Probably about 2-3 mo of reserve if you're willing to do CDOs... A few more months for an actual decent line. MSP usually offers long call reserve at least though.

musketeer 03-22-2016 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2094117)
I wouldn't let quickest msp base be your biggest reason to decide on which
airline. I'd imagine that a phone call to scheduling before you commuted to
your domicile could get you to sit rsv in msp or at least a DH to pick up a trip.

The truth is I'm looking for a base with a one leg commute from FAR and IAH. I'm going to have a very interesting 12-18 months due to some unforeseen circumstances. If it was up to me I wouldn't be commuting.

It looks like there are quite a few options: DEN, ATL, DFW, MSP, and ORD.

Thank you everyone, for the information so far.

Do any of the crew lounges have showers or any exercise equipment? I'm brand new to the 121 world, forgive my ignorance.

musketeer 03-22-2016 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by phalanxo (Post 2094131)
At Compass it looks like the most jr FO at MSP held it out of training, their DOH isn't on the seniority list as we don't have our April one yet. Funny how times change as it used to be very senior... that is about as low as I've ever seen it. Jr Lineholder would be 10/15/15 hire on a CDO line. Probably about 2-3 mo of reserve if you're willing to do CDOs... A few more months for an actual decent line. MSP usually offers long call reserve at least though.

What is a CDO? Is long call 12 hours?

phalanxo 03-22-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by musketeer (Post 2094166)
What is a CDO? Is long call 12 hours?

long call is 12 hrs yeah, CDO is a highspeed. ie fly somewhere at 9:15pm, land 10pm, you go to the hotel and have a 5:15am van or something for a 5:30am show for a 6:15am flight that gets you back home at 7am. Basically you don't get the 10 hours of minimum 117 rest, so you never go "off duty", they keep you on duty overnight. They aren't super fun but they have their upsides. Especially if you're good at naps. You are also limited in how many you can do in a row. They also vary greatly in quality, some of them aren't so bad, some I feel are pretty ugly. The april CDO line there was MOT turns out of MSP but it can change month to month in the bid packet. Sometimes people will continue to sit reserve instead of bidding for CDOs if it doesn't work for their situation, so they can go very junior.

saxman66 03-22-2016 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by musketeer (Post 2094163)
The truth is I'm looking for a base with a one leg commute from FAR and IAH. I'm going to have a very interesting 12-18 months due to some unforeseen circumstances. If it was up to me I wouldn't be commuting.

It looks like there are quite a few options: DEN, ATL, DFW, MSP, and ORD.

Thank you everyone, for the information so far.

Do any of the crew lounges have showers or any exercise equipment? I'm brand new to the 121 world, forgive my ignorance.

Well from FAR, MSP is definitely drivable if you get in a bind. And regional crew room that I know of has a shower or any exercise equipment. Though I know some guys like to use the gym at the Hilton O'Hare. It's about $12 or half off for crew members. But I wouldn't use that as a deciding factor. IAH to ORD is a hub to hub commute for United and traditional hub to hub for the same airline can be more difficult. But you also have AA and Spirit as a choice for that route. IAH to MSP is mostly RJ's so plan on an uncomfortable long jumpseat ride sometimes. But again, its DL and UA, so multiple airlines is a plus.

musketeer 03-22-2016 03:26 PM

Thanks guys. It's much appreciated.


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