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Sliceback 04-30-2016 11:16 AM

College credit for flying experience?
 
Doing research for a H.S. kid.

Anyone have some background on which schools offer it? Trying to see which colleges give credit for previous experience to reduce the total credits required to get a four year degree.

Second question - do the degrees meet the military four year degree requirement?

aviator493 04-30-2016 11:26 AM

ERAU gave me 30+ credits from having my ATP as well as CFI ratings. I'm taking online classes. Could not answer about military, but I'd assume it would would.


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WhiskeyKilo 04-30-2016 11:28 AM

Let me try to understand the question; he/she is asking if any colleges offer credit toward a degree if you posses a pilot certificate or have flying experience.

The answer to that question (to my knowledge) is no!

If the question is do aviation colleges honor the certificates that you hold then the answer is yes! Western Michigan University, my alma mater, will give you "credit" for your private pilot certificate and instrument rating. You will have to attend a transition course which qualifies the ratings you hold and allows you to continue under the part 141 curriculum to attain a commercial certificate.

Most if not all accredited universities, accredited being the key word here, base their "aviation degrees" on a bachelors of science. That would mean that you graduate with a BS in Aviation Flight Sciences or whatever the case may be. A BS in science from an accredited university would absolutely meet the militaries 4-year degree requirement.


Edit: as I have just read from the above post and researched apperently ERAU does give course credit for held certificates (https://worldwide.erau.edu/Assets/wo...FAA_Credit.pdf). As I search this more I am finding other colleges that offer credit as well. As long as that credit is being put toward a degree in a related field in some cases.

threeighteen 04-30-2016 11:42 AM

BSAST Degree in Aviation Flight Technology | Thomas Edison State University

WhiskeyKilo 04-30-2016 12:19 PM

TESU is only regionally accredited. It is not a higher learning commission accredited university. So that would be a college degree that may not be honored by the military.

Sliceback 04-30-2016 12:31 PM

WK - that's why I asked if a the colleges qualify more militray requirements. Reading online it seems to indicate that regional is perhaps higher ranked than national accreditation.

Sliceback 04-30-2016 12:32 PM

I stopped by an ANG base to ask today recruiting but they were closed.

DraGoon 04-30-2016 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2119870)
WK - that's why I asked if a the colleges qualify more militray requirements. Reading online it seems to indicate that regional is perhaps higher ranked than national accreditation.

You're right about the accreditation...Regionally accredited higher education institutions are predominantly academically oriented non-profit or state-owned institutions. Nationally accredited schools are predominantly for-profit and offer vocational, career or technical programs. National accreditation is used in the non-profit sector for specific programs, such as nursing.

I'm in the military and I got my Associates through TESC and the military recognized it. I also attended ERAU. The military was good with them also. Whether it is online or on campus. If the military is your goal, look for a school that has a ROTC program for the branch you want. Trying to get into flight training directly through OCS or some other accessions program may prove to be difficult, unless it is specifically outlined in your contract.

Worst case scenario is to go into one of the services as an enlisted person and look at the in-service recruitment programs. It is probably the hardest way to go for a pilot job but you will definitely prove your worth if you make it.

Learflyer 04-30-2016 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 2119857)


May I add Excelsior College and Charter Oak State College to TESU as fully accredited ways to earn a degree. They all offer multiple credits for life experience and all three are called "the big three" for that reason. Please see the link below to get more info. You do not have to go in to debt to graduate college.

Www.degreeforum.net.

I am testing out of a non-aviation degree at Excelsior. Saving thousands of dollars. There are a few classes required that have to be done through the college itself (hey, it's still a business!) but the majority can be tested utilizing CLEP and DANTE's exams.


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Squallrider 04-30-2016 02:03 PM

When I was doing classes at ERAU-online I would say that 50% or more of the class were currently in the military or retired military.

ConnectionPilot 04-30-2016 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2119915)
When I was doing classes at ERAU-online I would say that 50% or more of the class were currently in the military or retired military.

What was the cost of ERAU? I'm going to Utah Valley now and the charge for out of state tuition is ridiculous at $2800 a semester.

Edgecrusher28 04-30-2016 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 2119934)
What was the cost of ERAU? I'm going to Utah Valley now and the charge for out of state tuition is ridiculous at $2800 a semester.

How many credits are you taking per semester?

DraGoon 04-30-2016 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 2119934)
What was the cost of ERAU? I'm going to Utah Valley now and the charge for out of state tuition is ridiculous at $2800 a semester.

For on Campus see below link and about $1358 per credit hour. About $46k a year for 32 credits. (Non Aviation)

http://daytonabeach.erau.edu/admissions/estimated-costs/

For online classes $250 per credit hour for military and $355 per credit hour for civilian.

mexipilot84 04-30-2016 04:03 PM

UVU was cheap compared to ERAU. Got credit for my ratings. Pocket a good amount of my GI BIll from UVU.

Hogcapt 04-30-2016 04:08 PM

Going back to 1989 here but I transferred into SIU-Carbondale after only one semester at Riddle. Aviation Management. Already had my Commercial, instrument and Multi-Engine. Plus two summers of work experience tugging banners down the beach. I was given credit for all of that. All in all I completed a B.S. Degree in 3.5 years.

DraGoon 04-30-2016 07:36 PM

Cheapest way to do it
 
If you're a High School Student and disciplined, the cheapest/quickest way to getting your degree and most of your flight training for a low cost is:

1. Join the AF or Navy for 4 yrs
2. While your in complete as much college as you can for free. Right now you get 16 credit hours per year in TA. first year you're in eligible. so 3x16=48 credits completed. money spent $0.
3. Save some of the money you earned to pay for the last 12 credits to get your A.S. if its ERAU 12x$250(military rate per credit hour online)=$3000.
4. Get out of the Military Use the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill to go back to your school of choice, in this case ERAU and complete college and your flight training for Free.99 + you get a stipend and a housing allowance.
5. Start working as a CFI.

Total commitment 6-7 yrs (24 or 25 yrs old)
Total Cost: $3k + Books
Total Benefit: you are marketable, mostly debt-free, you're a veteran and have some life experience.

Again it takes someone who is focused, mature and disciplined to pull it off.

AtlCSIP 04-30-2016 07:36 PM

Liberty University will give you credit for your ratings. If you work for certain companies (check with them), you will also get 15% off of your tuition. If you already have an ATP and CFI-I, I think you can do everything else on-line.

AKNGPilot 04-30-2016 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by aviator493 (Post 2119845)
ERAU gave me 30+ credits from having my ATP as well as CFI ratings. I'm taking online classes. Could not answer about military, but I'd assume it would would.


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As a military aviator ERAU gave me 60 credits

A.FLOOR 04-30-2016 08:06 PM

Texas A&M University-Central Texas will credit all of your certs regardless of where you got them for the aviation science major. You also only need a commercial to graduate.

Avroman 04-30-2016 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo (Post 2119848)
Let me try to understand the question; he/she is asking if any colleges offer credit toward a degree if you posses a pilot certificate or have flying experience.

The answer to that question (to my knowledge) is no!

If the question is do aviation colleges honor the certificates that you hold then the answer is yes! Western Michigan University, my alma mater, will give you "credit" for your private pilot certificate and instrument rating. You will have to attend a transition course which qualifies the ratings you hold and allows you to continue under the part 141 curriculum to attain a commercial certificate.

Most if not all accredited universities, accredited being the key word here, base their "aviation degrees" on a bachelors of science. That would mean that you graduate with a BS in Aviation Flight Sciences or whatever the case may be. A BS in science from an accredited university would absolutely meet the militaries 4-year degree requirement.


Edit: as I have just read from the above post and researched apperently ERAU does give course credit for held certificates (https://worldwide.erau.edu/Assets/wo...FAA_Credit.pdf). As I search this more I am finding other colleges that offer credit as well. As long as that credit is being put toward a degree in a related field in some cases.

Maybe this dates me, but a classmate at WMU (American Eagle ATR FO at the time, you guess from there) had been a LONG time FO, and was awarded captain and as such didn't have the schedule flexibility to attend regular classes.... so he fast tracked based on his professional flying.. all flight courses were "credit awarded from professional experience" (and I'm sure it helped he already had a bachelor's degree in fashion science, he told me the story why, and the hotness of his wife backed it up)... He was gone from WMU after that semester based on all that credit given....

Silver02ex 04-30-2016 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2119839)
Doing research for a H.S. kid.

Anyone have some background on which schools offer it? Trying to see which colleges give credit for previous experience to reduce the total credits required to get a four year degree.

Second question - do the degrees meet the military four year degree requirement?

UVU game me credit for, CRM, high altitude and work experience, along with my ATP. It think it shaved off about 4-5 classes.

ConnectionPilot 05-01-2016 04:15 PM

I'm taking 4 classes. Tuition was $4700 for this semester, not including books. They will give me 30 hours for my experience. Honestly, the charge for out of state tuition wipes out anything I save by the 30 credit hours.

MacrossJet 05-01-2016 04:58 PM

Does anyone know if ASU (Arizona State University) gives credit for prior ratings earned? Or do you HAVE to get all your ratings/certs through their program for credit?

MacrossJet 05-01-2016 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by pilotnicco (Post 2120103)
Texas A&M University-Central Texas will credit all of your certs regardless of where you got them for the aviation science major. You also only need a commercial to graduate.

Is this online, traditional or both?

moflyer 05-02-2016 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo (Post 2119866)
TESU is only regionally accredited. It is not a higher learning commission accredited university. So that would be a college degree that may not be honored by the military.

The higher learning commision only accredits schools in the midwest.

Silver02ex 05-02-2016 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 2120561)
I'm taking 4 classes. Tuition was $4700 for this semester, not including books. They will give me 30 hours for my experience. Honestly, the charge for out of state tuition wipes out anything I save by the 30 credit hours.

That seems really high. When I went UVU (Which is not long ago), each 3 credit class was about $550-$750 (Out of state). That's for general courses and aviation. You may want to talk to your advisor (Theo). You may have selected the wrong class, such as PHIL. There's 2050 205H and 205G, they all have different cost, but it's the same class.

29Eleven 05-02-2016 08:04 PM

PLA - Aviation | Liberty University Online

md11freightdog 05-02-2016 09:06 PM

TESU is accredited by Middle States Commission, one of the 6 regional accrediting association recognized by the US Dept of Ed. Good to go for military.

Generalaviator1 05-03-2016 07:16 AM

Auburn offers credit for any advanced rating. Best aviation school around IMO. Can't have a better experience.

Professional Flight Management Degree | harbert.auburn.edu


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