Best Regional w/ EWR base
 

Looking for opinions regarding regional based out of EWR, with short or no reserve, that are willing to pay for ATP-CTP.
less reserve > than shinny jet. more flight time > than upgrade time.

Planning on getting 1000 - 1500 hours 121 and go back to 135.

Thank you

Commutair would be your best

Yeah I wouldn't tell them that in the interview.

Why not just go straight to 135, usually people go 135 to 121 and not vice versa. What airline in the NYC area isnt junior?

I am doing 135 right now, but to reach my TT goal quicker, the easy way is 121. EWR will be 10 min from home, LGA and JFK would be 1:30 with traffic and $15 to $20 in tolls...

CommutAir would be the way to go.

What do you need TT for, fly left seat for a part 135? Not trying to be sarcastic, just curious, idk much about 135 ops

getting the hours, and an ATP ride now, that is easy to get both, just in case economy tanks again in a couple of years ( I am betting on 2019/2020, we will be back to the no hire / furloughs age.. i hope i am wrong but economy goes in cycles ). 135 now as a right seat is paying more 20K than the best regional out there, but not flying more than 350 hours year, and not paying for ATP ride.
I will be taking a huge pay cut, but is needed for progressing on my career. I love my schedule and the type of flying i am doing now, and that is why I want to come back to it...

You want to get your total time up because you think there will be no hiring/furloughs in 2019/2020 . I suggest you do yourself a favor, and do some research . Do you have any idea on how many MANDATORY retirements there will be between the BIG 3 alone during that time frame?

well you are right, regarding the mandatory retirement, no questions about it, now factor in the possible merge between regional's, due to all the issues with staffing, or / and possible taking the regional flying to the mainline... it is hard to predict anything on today's world, so I believe in be ready and prepare for worst...
there is a big flux of new pilots into the business,(just look at Flight schools student load, more than they can train) they are a lot of them overseas, about to head back home, after teaching the Asians how to fly a plane... everyone is counting on all those nice new jets on order, and how much crews will be needed to staff them, but how about the airframes that will be retired meanwhile??? I dont think this will look so good in a couple of years, the peak of hiring was/is happening since 2014 up to the end of this year. I hope I am wrong.

Expressjet would be your best choice. Large base and very junior. United CPP about to cause lots of movement here by end of year..

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Mandatory Retirements:

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That's what a lot of people said in 2007....

The $!tty part of this industry is we are only one 9/11 or recession away from the music stopping again. Then there's the talk of age 67, or God knows 68 or 70. A combination of those things and pilots will be back on the streets again. Hopefully we never see another perfect storm of bs like we had last decade, but we never know what the future has in store.

To the OP- I went to the regionals for a similar reason. I needed more jet time to advance my career flying corporate, and I wasn't getting it fast enough flying ~200 hours per year. I Went to the airline where I could be based at home and build time fast, and didn't do tons of research past that. After a few months at the airlines I decided that airline flying is where I belong, and I have no desire to go back to corporate flying. Now I'm having serious buyers remorse about the airline I picked. If I had planned to stay 121 I would have picked somewhere with different equipment and career progression opportunities, but after being at my company it's hard to leave behind 1.5 years seniority and start at the bottom (remember seniority is king in 121). Just my $.02.

Rumored, or factual? I hear lots of lifers on the ERJ side of the house. What's the minimum rsv time at EWR? How soon could one theoretically hold a line, in EWR?

Republic :
- Extremely short on crews in EWR
- Best pay (plus signing bonus)
- Better equipment (corporate people would prefer jet time)
- Rigs
- High quality of flying. (some days are two legs of flight time, 8 hours of flying, you are done)

I am between RAH, Expressjet, and Commutair.
RAH - I am worry about the future, bc of BK, and i am afraid they will not give me EWR. Like the idea of flying a E170.
Expressjet - I heard reserve time is going for over year and half, but I think they will be the next blooming regional in terms of upgrades and stability.
Commuttair - they are small, but they are growing, and growth is a good sign, Looks to me they are going on the opposite direction of RAH...

I think C5 has the best chance... good pay... best QOL of most. a flawed flow.. but its something.. fast upgrade... flying the smash8!!!!!! or the hair dryer... EWR base...

My friend there is very happy.

How so? They have no growth, they're quickly shrinking to their oblivion. RSV times are atrocious, as is their upgrade times.

All making for reasons why no one is going there, which only further exacerbates their problems.

But they have a great social media team!

this may sound stupid, but expressjet is showing signs of shrinking, everyone is leaving the boat ( which is normal when this things happen ) but I dont believe they will disapear.

they probably will hit (or already did) the bottom. If they dont close doors ( which i dont think it will happen... for some reason skywest bough them) they will be growing back up, and if you get there right on the beginning of that growth you will be golden. This is all about timing and that is what i am trying to figure out...

You are correct about things being very stagnant right now. However, with the United Career pathway you will be seeing LOTS of movement beginning around September. Reserve has been very lengthy due to lack of upgrades but this will also begin to drop early next year as the movement begins to happen. This is a good time to get on.

Why does the CPP, equal movement? How many guys will be leaving September?

Our problem as been we've had many more junior Fo"s leaving than senior captains. United has said they will begin taking our pilots this fall as part of the program. I forget the specifics of amount but I believe its around 15-20 a month if not more. These will be the most senior folks creating upward movement.

what was the DOH of the last EWR pilot to hold a line??? any idea???

Mid 2011 hire at XJT ERJ side . Wouldn't recommend anyone going there . Don't know anyone else who actually works there that isn't a recruiter that would recommend anyone going there . The United Pathway Progarm is just a carrot to try and get new hires throug the door . It's just an interview . United already hires plenty of XJT guys as it is . It won't create any major movement off the top . Upgrade time will still be close to 9 years . There is no current growth or single list in the near future .

Looks like March 2014. Might be lower than that with a few others bidding relief/reserve lines. I would think some 2015 hires are getting relief lines.

Explain how this will not create movement?

Projections are a dangerous thing, go with a company that has consistent movement, historically low times on reserve, and quick upgrades.

Just don't let the airline you choose with quick upgrades/reserve be a bottom feeder with horrible contract/pay with no improvements in sight...

Have you read the details on the United Pathway Program ? Flow through programs create minimal movement, this isn't even that . It's an interview . How much movement do you really think it's going to create ?

I would say that is bad advice... Go to Envoy, sit reserve for four years, no upgrade in sight... Mesa, you are off reserve in 6 months or less depending on base, and upgrading when you have 1000 121 time. You tell me where you would be happier? The gold standard or the bottom feeder?
This attitude has shot more pilots in the foot than any other...

I have and it requires around 200 plus to come from the XJT seniority list. (UAL hiring slows then sure that number will be lower) How does that not create movement. Be negative about the program if you wish (it appears you no longer work at XJT anyway) Most are very excited about it and see this helping the stagnation at XJT.

The music is slowing for Mesa. Reserve times will begin to go up and upgrades will slow as growth slows. What a terrible place to be stuck with crappy pay. There is a reason so many FO's are leaving Mesa for other regionals.

UAL hires a good amount of XJT guys already without the program . Most of the people I have talked to aren't that really excited about it. Maybe I'm wrong . It all comes in waves . XJT was the place to be when I got hired, now look at it ..... I was lucky enough to get hired early enough in the wave that I at least spent a minimal time on reserve , but still when I left with over 4.5 years of seniority I was still over 300 numbers away from upgrade .

You actually just said it. The fact that UAL already hires so many of our guys plus you add the CPP program and all those leaving for DAL SWA, FED EX and others movement will be brisk.

I'm really looking at 9E because of the MSP base. Not to mention all the other positives, like the money and the current upgrade time. I would live in base, in MSP and not have to commute.

But I really want UAL, on the legacy side. Yeah, I know you can still "maybe" get an interview with UAL working for 9E. Or any other regional for that matter. But the numbers don't lie, more XJT's are getting the call to interview at UAL CPP or not, than anyone else at any other regional. Honestly, I'm torn.

Sure about that boss?

Yep! Deliveries of new a/c about to end. That has been fueling all your growth and upgrades..

Commutair would be your best choice. Ewr is junior, and you will move quick with the growth. I would imagine you would hold a line within a month or two of finishing training. Upgrade when you hit 1000 sic.