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The Gardener 06-14-2016 08:44 PM

ANC Schedules?
 
What sort of schedule would one have if they were ANC based for Horizon or one of the handful of other ANC regional out of there?

Are they home each night or are there overnights?

My wife and I are considering a move up there so I'm trying to get a gauge on if one can have some sort of normalcy with flying?

I think the end all goal would be to get on with Alaska, but I'd need a degree or a rule change first.

alaskadrifter 06-14-2016 08:47 PM

Corvus and Penair both have you in your own bed at the end of the night, I think QX too.

The Gardener 06-14-2016 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2145294)
Corvus and Penair both have you in your own bed at the end of the night, I think QX too.

Thanks man. I've flown Penair, but that's all I know. How are they to work for? Any idea? Should one expect to maintain a crazy busy schedule during the summer months?

alaskadrifter 06-14-2016 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by The Gardener (Post 2145299)
Thanks man. I've flown Penair, but that's all I know. How are they to work for? Any idea? Should one expect to maintain a crazy busy schedule during the summer months?

I don't know, I haven't flown for them yet. Ask ASPilot2Be.

snackysmores 06-14-2016 09:35 PM

At Horizon the ANC pilot schedules are usually ANC-FAI twice per day. No overnights, only day trips. The base is very senior though for FOs. As a new hire based in ANC you will sit reserve and never fly. Ever. We have ANC FO's transferring back down to PDX because in 1 year they only flew maybe 100-200 hours total and they will never reach their 1k 121 time before they're due for upgrade.

So if you don't want to fly I guess it can be good, but it will make recurrent training a nightmare for you since you never touch the controls.

The Gardener 06-14-2016 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2145309)
At Horizon the ANC pilot schedules are usually ANC-FAI twice per day. No overnights, only day trips. The base is very senior though for FOs. As a new hire based in ANC you will sit reserve and never fly. Ever. We have ANC FO's transferring back down to PDX because in 1 year they only flew maybe 100-200 hours total and they will never reach their 1k 121 time before they're due for upgrade.

So if you don't want to fly I guess it can be good, but it will make recurrent training a nightmare for you since you never touch the controls.

That'd be fine if I can be on call while on a Kayak in Seward during the summer!

alaskadrifter 06-14-2016 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by The Gardener (Post 2145310)
That'd be fine if I can be on call while on a Kayak in Seward during the summer!

Seward is a pretty far drive.

The Gardener 06-14-2016 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2145312)
Seward is a pretty far drive.

Yeah, I was being facetious.

alaskadrifter 06-14-2016 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by The Gardener (Post 2145314)
Yeah, I was being facetious.

Ha! Good :D. Penair has a ground school on July 20th and Corvus On the 19th.

Rangi 06-15-2016 10:40 AM

Corvus is in an interesting place, here is some stuff to consider if you are interested in it.

10 Dashes, 80 Pilots. No word on a ground school for off the street guys because we mostly grab folks from the 135 side.

That being said, if you sign on with us, pretty important you understand how that combined 135/121 seniority list works. One cannot figure out when upgrade will come, because you will always have a bunch of 135 guys who could come over and knock your FO seniority down or your CA seniority down.

Upgrades are 6.5 years to 10 years. That's important for two reasons. First, it means if you stick around that long, the living gets really easy and CA's tend to be lifers. It's a good gig for those guys. Second, unless you have alternate money, FO's pretty much make $35k-40k until they upgrade and according to dept of labor/workforce dev, ANC is a pretty spendy place to live. http://laborstats.alaska.gov/col/col.pdf Take a hard look at the benny package.

For other opinions on upgrades at Corvus, see this penair discussion:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ml#post2116697

I know it is the airline industry and anything can happen, but be aware the airline was purchased by an investor group under one year ago with a history of selling in a few years. So if you sign on, hard to say who you'll be working for in a few years. Maybe that's important, maybe not.

What else should a guy know about the job? It can get pretty physical, even as a 121 ATP you will be deicing at 40 below and over wing fuelling a dash on a ladder out in places like unk. You'll be slinging bags too.

All that negative aside, the company is held up by a strong group of employees who excel at problem solving on the fly. If that's your forte and you don't mind the chaos, it is awesome! The flying is pretty fun, pretty landscapes, and variety abounds.

And to return to the original question, schedule wise you are either an AM or PM. That's as detailed as the schedule gets because it will change on the fly. Just don't make any personal plans on a day you are scheduled to work and life will be good. Both have you home each night and you can pretty much get 4 on 3 off once you have a year or so seniority. There is a 60 hour guarantee and that's what you'll get. During the summer you might get 70 for a month or two, and on the flip side during the winter you'll have a few months where you'll fly around 40.

HTH!

The Gardener 06-15-2016 04:03 PM

Rangi,

Thanks for taking the time with these answers. I really appreciate it. the long upgrades speaks a lot to the company as a long term employee. My wife and would be moving to ANC to improve our quality of life, not get rich. Were is a position that moving up there would get us pretty close to debt free fortunately so we're looking for jobs that's more about QOL than $$.

Thanks again!

Al Czervik 06-15-2016 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2145309)
As a new hire based in ANC you will sit reserve and never fly. Ever. We have ANC FO's transferring back down to PDX because in 1 year they only flew maybe 100-200 hours total

Sounds AWESOME. I'd never leave.

ASpilot2be 06-15-2016 04:09 PM

Just as a heads up, right now you won't get based in Anchorage if you come to penair.

Rangi 06-15-2016 04:17 PM

How about ANC for QX?

I've heard it on this board that it's senior for FO's, but the guys I know who fly over there say the FO's will be leaving ANC as they upgrade this Fall.

I'd switch in a heartbeat if I could get ANC.

hauslp 06-15-2016 04:49 PM

This is all good info for me. I'm currently flying a sled in the bush, and I should be hitting my ATP mins in the spring. ANC based is a must for me.

snackysmores 06-15-2016 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Rangi (Post 2145695)
How about ANC for QX?

I've heard it on this board that it's senior for FO's, but the guys I know who fly over there say the FO's will be leaving ANC as they upgrade this Fall.

I'd switch in a heartbeat if I could get ANC.

The ANC FOs who upgrade to CA will stay. ANC will just no longer be the junior CA base.

The Gardener 06-16-2016 11:02 AM

How long would it take to hold even reserve in ANC for Horizon?

Horizon has that deal to get interviews into Alaska, in that case does AS still require a degree?

The Gardener 06-16-2016 12:52 PM

Anybody here work for the airline/outfit formerly knows as Era? AKA Ravn, Corvus Etc? Is so, I'd love to pick your brain a bit.

Rangi 06-16-2016 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by The Gardener (Post 2146263)
Anybody here work for the airline/outfit formerly knows as Era? AKA Ravn, Corvus Etc? Is so, I'd love to pick your brain a bit.

I do. Shoot me a PM with your questions.

However, it's 80 and clear up here...so it might take me some time. Too many mtns to climb...

ASpilot2be 06-17-2016 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Rangi (Post 2146444)
I do. Shoot me a PM with your questions.

However, it's 80 and clear up here...so it might take me some time. Too many mtns to climb...

It's so nice out! I don't want to go back to work. I want to enjoy the Alaskan sunshine.

OnMyWay 06-17-2016 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2146503)
It's so nice out! I don't want to go back to work. I want to enjoy the Alaskan sunshine.

At 0112??:D

ASpilot2be 06-17-2016 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by OnMyWay (Post 2146698)
At 0112??:D

This time of year I can enjoy the sunshine at all hours.

Gilligan13 07-09-2016 10:40 AM

Sounds like it takes a long time to upgrade if you want to live in Anc.

flightview 07-11-2016 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 2158749)
Sounds like it takes a long time to upgrade if you want to live in Anc.



Just had upgrade class for 2 year FO's at KS


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ASpilot2be 07-11-2016 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by flightview (Post 2159741)
Just had upgrade class for 2 year FO's at KS


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Yeah, but you have to be based elsewhere.

flightview 07-11-2016 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 2159913)
Yeah, but you have to be based elsewhere.



Maybe more so now, but last years upgrades are based in ANC.


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ASpilot2be 07-11-2016 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by flightview (Post 2159915)
Maybe more so now, but last years upgrades are based in ANC.


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True. I upgraded in February and had to go to Portland. With the ANC 340 base shrinking who knows what's gonna happen.


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