Comair ALPA Reaches TA at 11th Hour
 

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/4548899.html

No details on the terms, but this has got to be better than the company just having its way. The rank and file have until March 4 to vote.

Congrats....

man, it always has to come down to the wire.

Comair TA
 

Airline managements have learned how to get almost everything they want without the dangerous "press-to-test" of imposing a contract and fighting a strike in Federal court. Just get a compliant BK judge to SAY you can do it, (even though another court would have the last word), make a token reduction in your demands, and you win.

The sad thing is that, given the pro-management bias in our court system, Denke was probably correct. :(

VOTE IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to see what it says before forming an opinion, but you're probably right.

I've got a projected 50 million reasons to vote it down before I even see one sentence.

So go ahead and vote it down and just have the company's terms implemented. Why?

Assuming (always a fun adventure) the TA is for a period of 4 years then add a few on top of that for negotiating a new contract. If we get imposed upon (probably for more $$$ than this TA...again an assumption), we are in Section 6 negotiations upon exit from BK. I would assume (there's that ugly word again), that the company would drag those out longer than "the norm".

Spite (never a good/sound reason to vote upon)

And because I have already worked for Mesa once and do not want to go down that road again, even if my paycheck says Comair. The Mesa mentality is here.

I know that this is a TON of assumptions and what if's. This is just my position as a PO'd FO. They have continualy lied and my need to work under an agreed upon contract very low right now. Actually, I should say that there are very few things I would actually vote for right now...a payraise would be one.

So your saying that this TA may have a bigger paycut than the imposed terms?

no, I am not saying that. I would vote for a pay raise over our current working agreement

Is there a possibility that Delta might liquidate Comair? Is that a fear among current pilots there? I did NOT hear this anywhere, so I am not trying to start a rumor, the thought just crossed my mind.

It is not impossible, but since they own a bunch of 50-seaters with low market value the company is probably worth more intact (if management can squeeze the labor concessions they want). It is VERY expensive to start up an airline from scratch.

Big Momma Delta CANNOT liquadate Comair while they ie Delta is still in Chapter 11, and even when they emerge from Chapter 11 they cant sell off what they dont own, Most of the airplanes at Comair are held really owned by the people who are financing the operation right now, dont quote me on this but I think its GE Capital and or Citi Bank, In laymans terms tons of Creditors have Leins on Comair and Comair is Making Money, I am no expert but I cant think of a reason why a creditor would get rid of something that is generating money, but then again I am not a Finance Major

Have you been to Cinci lately? There are RJ's parked on the ramp away from the gate... Jets can't make money or even pay their lease just sitting there. 12 CRJ700 jets have been or are in the process of being transfered over to ASA. It costs around 800,000 to transfer a jet to another company (maint inspections and paperwork). So I doubt they will be sent back to Comair anytime soon. Whatever the future holds for them will not be good. Consessions and losing planes is never a good combination.