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trip 08-16-2016 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2181409)
If you want to go to American, go work for Piedmont, PSA, or Envoy.

If you want to fly for Delta, go to Endeavor.

If you want to fly for United, go to CommutAir, ExpressJet, or maybe SlyWest?

While pilots from every regional get hired all over the place, look at the regionals who either have or are developing partnerships for moving their pilots up to mainline.

This is good advice. Go with the flow or get in line with everybody else.

Eaglepilot84 08-16-2016 10:30 AM

If you live in NY I wouldn't look anywhere but Endevour. Good luck.

word302 08-16-2016 10:44 AM

Flow is a silly reason to choose an airline unless you are unhireable otherwise.

chrisreedrules 08-16-2016 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2181613)
Flow is a silly reason to choose an airline unless you are unhireable otherwise.

Well look at the statistics... Not all of the airlines I mentioned above have flow, but they are the ones who send the most pilots to the respective mainlines. Other airlines don't make up as large a portion of the classes as those. Not to mention as the regional pilot supply is further strangled in the next couple years, I think you'll see more solid "flow" type agreements between mainline and their partner regionals. It will be the best way to secure their feed and their future pilots.

knewyork 08-16-2016 12:05 PM

Here's a vote for RAH. I like it here and our movement is steadily increasing.

Nantonaku 08-16-2016 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by 272922 (Post 2181461)
The money is probably close, but I believe upgrade at Endeavor is much shorter than RAH at the moment.

All that said, I believe that in the long run there will be advantages to being at the wholly owned carriers. Think about it: you'd be flying Delta owned aircraft, and Delta already has a rate for said aircraft in their CBA.

Now, is Endeavor going to be stapled tomorrow? Probably not. But what does that relationship look like 5 years from now? Who the heck knows....


How would the money be even remotely close? I saw the Republic advertisement and they sneak in per diem and health benefits to their pay and even then it was way under Endeavor first year pay. Do you really want to work for a carrier that would even try to pull that off? Just the fact that they would try that would be enough for me to not even apply. It is unfathomable to me that Republic is able to get a single pilot to show up to class in this environment.

knewyork 08-16-2016 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 2181676)
How would the money be even remotely close? I saw the Republic advertisement and they sneak in per diem and health benefits to their pay and even then it was way under Endeavor first year pay. Do you really want to work for a carrier that would even try to pull that off? Just the fact that they would try that would be enough for me to not even apply. It is unfathomable to me that Republic is able to get a single pilot to show up to class in this environment.

You think republic is the only one doing that?

WMUFlyboy1 08-16-2016 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by knewyork (Post 2181686)
You think republic is the only one doing that?

To make a false advertisement by including medical and per diem in their ads, claiming them to be compensation? Yes, yes they are the only ones doing that....

Per Diem is a reimbursement, not pay
Medical is not included in a salary

Show me one other airline publishing their pay with that included in the figure. Next ad you see for Republic will say "First year FO's make $150,000*!!! (*Including $110,000 valuation of flight benefits)

knewyork 08-16-2016 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1 (Post 2181698)
To make a false advertisement by including medical and per diem in their ads, claiming them to be compensation? Yes, yes they are the only ones doing that....

Per Diem is a reimbursement, not pay
Medical is not included in a salary

Show me one other airline publishing their pay with that included in the figure. Next ad you see for Republic will say "First year FO's make $150,000*!!! (*Including $110,000 valuation of flight benefits)

Show me the ad. I didn't mean per diem and medical benefits specifically. I mean you don't think other regionals exaggerate in their ads? Hopefully one does a bit more research after viewing an ad.

4V14T0R 08-16-2016 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1 (Post 2181698)
To make a false advertisement by including medical and per diem in their ads, claiming them to be compensation? Yes, yes they are the only ones doing that....

Per Diem is a reimbursement, not pay
Medical is not included in a salary

Show me one other airline publishing their pay with that included in the figure. Next ad you see for Republic will say "First year FO's make $150,000*!!! (*Including $110,000 valuation of flight benefits)



Actually it appears to be a picture of total compensation. Which would be the truth however you like to look at it.


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