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Old 08-16-2016, 04:49 PM   #1  
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Default Average 4 day trip hours?

What are the average 4 day trips like at your airline?

Block hours vs. Credit hours
Are they commutable on 1 side at least?
Early start/late finish?

I know all companies have some good trips, and some bad trips, but what is the average/normal?

What do you consider to be a good trip? 18 credit hours? 20 hours credit? 23 hours credit?
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What are the average 4 day trips like at your airline?

Block hours vs. Credit hours
Are they commutable on 1 side at least?
Early start/late finish?

I know all companies have some good trips, and some bad trips, but what is the average/normal?

What do you consider to be a good trip? 18 credit hours? 20 hours credit? 23 hours credit?
I would call 23 hours good for a four day if it's commutable on both ends if it's commutable and 27 hours if it's only commutable on one end.
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I would call 23 hours good for a four day if it's commutable on both ends if it's commutable and 27 hours if it's only commutable on one end.
Who do you work for? Also, is a trip like this common (is it normal to get a 27 hour trip)
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Who do you work for? Also, is a trip like this common (is it normal to get a 27 hour trip)
Compass. I would say our average four day is 22 hours, but if you're senior there are lots of very high credit trips. I've had a 16 hour two day, a 22 hour three day, and a 28 hour four day.
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Compass. I would say our average four day is 22 hours, but if you're senior there are lots of very high credit trips. I've had a 16 hour two day, a 22 hour three day, and a 28 hour four day.
Those are pretty good trips.
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OO trips average 5 hours a day with good trips being 24 to 26 hours. We do have plenty that only pay the 16:48 minimum though.
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The data varies but roughly..
4 days: CRJ at Skyw averages low fives of pay per day. 7/9 averages mid fives per day.

Layovers average 16 hours.
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At PSA a "good" 4 day would be 22 hrs. I would say average is 20 but I've seen 12 hour 4 days.

Our scheduler is criminally inefficient. Lots of deadheads and long sits. Plus you only get min day on day 1 if you start before noon and on day 4 if you finish after 5. With 3 of 4 bases being out stations a lot of trips start or end with a deadhead.

I believe as a line holder the first and last deadheads can be to/from another location. As a reserve if you call to be released from your last deadhead so you can catch a commute the schedulers will actually tell you that you need to wait until the deadhead flight is actually wheels up before you can depart. ridiculous smh
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At envoy our schedules are fantastic, 4 day trip 16.50 hours and 3 day trip 9 hours. Where can you work to have 11 days off and 75 hour lines like this, envoy. Come to envoy and enjoy sitting around airports all day meeting interesting people. Oh did I mention most are non commutable.
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OO trips average 5 hours a day with good trips being 24 to 26 hours. We do have plenty that only pay the 16:48 minimum though.
That would be highly dependent on base. In MSP most of the summer I could barely get 19.5 hours out of a 4 day. June was the worst ever with four 4 days crediting between 18:40 and 19:30. Most of my trips were right around the 4:1 TAFB guarantee.

The good news is most of my trips for August were around 20 hours for a 4 day which are considered good commutable trips in MSP. September is likely to be back down in credit hours.

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