Comair New TA?
 

Any word on Comair's new TA?

The MEC is reviewing it tonite(the 17th) should find out in the next day or so.

blue,

alot of support for you guys.good luck.....

after it is signed expect comair to get those 30 900s that delta just ordered. That is pretty unfortunate

Thank you very much.


The MEC endorsed it last night. Still no word on what the details are.

What does MEC stand for?

Why would that be unfortunate?

Master Executive Council. If Im not mistaken this is considered to be the union leaders.

in union speak this means;

Master Executive Council

or Makes Everybody Cringe
or My Ending Career


just a little inside humor only guys!!!!

Yes, the MEC is the top union leadership at a given company, they are not the national folks (but an MEC member could be elected to national leadership IIRC).

Each company also has LEC's (local executive councils) which represent pilots in a specific domicile or geographic region. The pilots elect LEC members and then the LEC members elect the MEC members (from their own ranks I think).

I'm not sure how the national leaders are elected, I think it some combination of vote by the total national membership and vote by the group of MEC chairmen from the various airlines.

Because Skywest is the only operator of the 900 for delta and its costs are more inline

It seems it would be a good thing for the Comair guys to get 900's.

Not an unfortunate event, I'd think.

Nice. The bar goes down another notch - nice way for you to root for your union bro's.

Oh, wait.......

It has and will continue to be very difficult for any single pilot group to hold up a bar given the type of business model that the airlines are using for feed. Unless there is quantifiable scope language and across the industry unity the bar will continue to lower.

Someone needs to slap you. The 200,700,900 or a common type and the 700 and 900 share many common parts. So if an airline already operates 200 and 700 it could easily start 900 operations quickly. Just like Skywest did.

Oh and rest assurred someone else will operate 900's along with Skywest. That way they can make sure that they can have a pricing competition to keep wages down.

As a Skywest pilot myself, the 900's going to Comair would be the best outcome. They are the only one's with the bawls to get what they deserve. They are setting the bar higher for everyone and trying to raise the standard, something everyone should be doing at their own companies. At least it won't be Pinnacle or Freedom... hopefully

I don't know what our proposal says yet, but I wouldn't classify it raising the standard. As for bawls, we are lucky we got a second chance, we had voted on a really steep paycut that got voided out thanks to our FA's. We ARE going to take a pay cut, the BK judge already stated that, which isn't good for anyone.

After we take it, it puts downward pressure on SkyWest, ASA, and everyone else. SkyWest may not feel the pressure immediately as they have a lot of growth slated for the next couple of years, but it will most undoubtly come if things don't change. ASA is already feeling the pressure.

It is a crazy world. I am jsut enjoying the ride.

I know, you want to continue to operate mainline aircraft for very little pay so you can hurry up and get your 1000 PIC turbine only to find out there are now jobs for you because Skyworst is flying them around for crappy payrates.:mad: Congratulations, oh and way to support your fellow union pilots....oh wait, your not union. Maybe thats why your pay rates suck. Your an a**. Just remember, what goes around comes around. I wish our Comair Brothers and Sisters the best. You've been through a lot. I hope it gets better very soon.

sounds like someone used to work at pinnacle.

They aren't my "union" brothers

I'm a company guy and I want to do whats best for MY company and MY pilot group. I don't know why I always get attacked when i'm sore when another airline gets growth that my airline could have had. I hope skywest is the only regional left in a couple of years. Also the rumour around here is that skywest is getting an additional 15 900s this summer for delta, I think we deserve them as we have been good to delta and have kept alpa off property.

BINGO!

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Are you a real SKW pilot, or are you just posing as one who makes inflamatory statements in order to make the rest of us look bad??? The later, I think :mad:

Yes I am a skywest pilot and I do not make inflamatory statments. Only people who think that are the ones suckling on the alpa teet. I've been at an airline that alpa destroyed, so I think I have a little more insight in the way this business works. Perhaps you should speak with hundreds of other part 121 people that have been hired and are in every newhire class. Most came to skywest because it isn't alpa and most of us are doing everthing to make sure it stays that way.

I'm one of them, I came from an alpa carrier.

I see no need for alpa at SKW at this time (that could change)...they need to fix mesa and a few others FIRST, then come talk to me.

The only thing alpa could offer me right now is a standard NATIONAL policy on pilot compensation that is ENFORCED, longshoreman style. They need to get scope under control too.

I'm all about getting growth flying (there's plenty of that), but could do without flying that belongs to COMAIR...I have some empathy for my fellow flyers.

We have little control over the dynamics of this industry, but there is no need to gloat about the fact the we at SKW are on the up-side of the cycle...cuz you know what ALWAYS follows the up-swing... :eek:

I hate to say this but DAL loves SKW. I know a few people over at DAL they deal with your management. They absolutely love them. All I ever hear is how professional and courteous they are. He said that no other regional that he has worked with has every been this good to work with.
SKW delivers customer service to their customer; DAL. It is sad for the rest of us, but when all are equal, they will choose the one that will treat them(DAL) with the utmost respect.
He hopes that SKW gets all of the flying. I guess it makes his job a lot easier.

Obviously you are currently making inflametory statements, look at the response you have been getting.

There is nothing wrong with wanting your company to prosper, if it does well you do well as a result. But, there is something to be said about the industry doing well too. The more growth we see industry-wide the better all of our lives will be.

ALPA, love it or not, is trying to make life better for all of us. Whether they are succeding or not is left for another debate, but it is their goal. If I were you I would be watching Comair very closley. It may not happen tomorrow, but Delta may come down on Skywest and want lower rates.

Not appreciating the successes of your fellow pilots (union or not) is foolish, ignorant and just plain rude.