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N6724G 02-18-2007 03:52 PM

Hiring Minimums
 
I've been reading about all these hiring minimums 600/100, 800/50 and so forth.

But I am curious how accurate are they. What I mean is the airlines posts a certain minimums to apply with them, but realisticly what are the requirements to get hired? An airline may post 600/50 on their website, but does that neccessarioy mean they will hire you with that?

reelbigchair 02-18-2007 04:10 PM

When talking about regionals, yes.

rickair7777 02-18-2007 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 120549)
I've been reading about all these hiring minimums 600/100, 800/50 and so forth.

But I am curious how accurate are they. What I mean is the airlines posts a certain minimums to apply with them, but realisticly what are the requirements to get hired? An airline may post 600/50 on their website, but does that neccessarioy mean they will hire you with that?


A regional will generally at least consider you, depending on how many responses they get. There is a shortage of entry level airline pilots who meet the traditional 1000/100 requirement, so the competetive mins are coming down. However it always helps to have an internal recomendation.

Baronpilot 02-18-2007 04:37 PM

I have even heard that some applicants are considered below the posted minimums.

BYUFlyr 02-18-2007 05:55 PM

For Example....
 
TSA Minimums:

Pilots
FAA Commercial pilots license with instrument and multi-engine ratings

ATP preferred

1,500 total hours fixed wing

500 multi-engine

A current first class FAA medical Certificate

Education - HS graduate required, 2 years associate degree or equivalent is preferred


But will consider someone with a paper multi commercial and an instrument rating.

CFIse 02-19-2007 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 120549)
I've been reading about all these hiring minimums 600/100, 800/50 and so forth.

But I am curious how accurate are they. What I mean is the airlines posts a certain minimums to apply with them, but realisticly what are the requirements to get hired? An airline may post 600/50 on their website, but does that neccessarioy mean they will hire you with that?

When hiring minimums are dropping they're realistic - when they bottom out or start to rise - THEN you may need additional qualifications to be considered. But right now, commercial pilots license and a pulse (pulse optional) and you WILL be considered for hire.

BURflyer 02-19-2007 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by CFIse (Post 121055)
When hiring minimums are dropping they're realistic - when they bottom out or start to rise - THEN you may need additional qualifications to be considered. But right now, commercial pilots license and a pulse (pulse optional) and you WILL be considered for hire.

I doubt it, who's hiring with a commercial? What's the interest for the company to hire 250 hour guys, that's a guaranteed failure in ground school.

rickair7777 02-19-2007 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 121187)
I doubt it, who's hiring with a commercial? What's the interest for the company to hire 250 hour guys, that's a guaranteed failure in ground school.

1000 hours doesn't help you get through ground school. The 250 hour types have more trouble in the sim and on IOE (ever heard one talk on the radio at ORD :rolleyes: )

APM145 03-11-2007 01:50 PM

Hiring Mins
 
Check out http://airlinepilotmentor.com/Airlines.aspx for hiring mins for most regionals. Those numbers are the posted mins for each airline but alternate mins can be lower if you have trained with an approved/bridge program.

DMEarc 03-11-2007 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by APM145 (Post 131917)
Check out http://airlinepilotmentor.com/Airlines.aspx for hiring mins for most regionals. Those numbers are the posted mins for each airline but alternate mins can be lower if you have trained with an approved/bridge program.

Wow...what a waste of my time. That website is terrible.

ghilis101 03-11-2007 02:23 PM

haha dme what are you doing on that website anyway?

LAfrequentflyer 03-11-2007 03:41 PM

Airline Name: MESA Airlines
Hiring: Yes

Union: ALPA

Pay Scales: Per Contract

Mainline affiliate: American Airlines, US Air, United, Delta
Minimums
Tot Time: Com ME
Multi-Engine: NA

kansas 03-11-2007 03:47 PM

Great Lakes Airlines

Posted minimums: 750 total, 50 ME

Without an internal rec, your chances of interviewing are slim, even at 2000 total and 500 ME. With an internal rec, we have also hired with a brand new Commercial ME, although 4-500 total is a lot more common.

Baronpilot 03-11-2007 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 131947)
Airline Name: MESA Airlines
Hiring: Yes

Union: ALPA

Pay Scales: Per Contract

Mainline affiliate: American Airlines, US Air, United, Delta
Minimums
Tot Time: Com ME
Multi-Engine: NA

Update: You now only need a student pilot certificate.:eek:

FlyingGuide 03-11-2007 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 131920)
Wow...what a waste of my time. That website is terrible.

I agree. A few links to companies that I am interested in but really no info on them.

RedBaron007 03-11-2007 04:58 PM

Mins at Piedmont
 
Gentlemen and ladies....would anybody have any info on the mins for Piedmont? I've tried the APC airlines database, the link mentioned earlier in this thread, and the piedmont hiring website and could find nothing. Some insight would be much appreciated. Thanks!

juxtapilot 03-11-2007 05:08 PM

Turbo-Prop
Beech 1900 DHC 6

DHC 8
ATR 42
ATR 72
Saab 340
Regional Jet
EMB 135/140
EMB 145
CRJ 100
CRJ 200
CRJ 700

Small Narrow Body
DC 9 CRJ 705
CRJ 900
CRJ1000
B717
BAE 146
F100
EMB 170/175
EMB 190/195
C110
C130
A318
B737-300

Amen to that!



That's from the airlinepilotmentor.com website.

flyfresno 03-11-2007 05:10 PM

Piedmont Mins
 
Depends on where you went to school, from my experience. Generally Purdue/UND/ERU are 500/50, while the posted mins are 1000/200 (see our website for more). However, we are really short on FOs right now, so I would put my app in if you have at least the 500TT (the insurance min).

RedBaron007 03-11-2007 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by flyfresno (Post 131993)
Depends on where you went to school, from my experience. Generally Purdue/UND/ERU are 500/50, while the posted mins are 1000/200 (see our website for more). However, we are really short on FOs right now, so I would put my app in if you have at least the 500TT (the insurance min).

Thanks a lot. I'm a little short, but I'm trying to get an idea of what's going on and where I'll be able to apply in the coming months after some more instructing. I should be able to start sooner than later. :)

ImperialxRat 03-11-2007 05:33 PM

It never hurts to apply. Throw your resume out there now, then update it once ya get 500TT. Update it again when ya get 750TT, etc etc.

XJPILOT1 03-11-2007 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 121187)
I doubt it, who's hiring with a commercial? What's the interest for the company to hire 250 hour guys, that's a guaranteed failure in ground school.


You're not serious, are you? That's the norm and they are not washing out.

AirWillie 03-11-2007 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 132014)
You're not serious, are you? That's the norm and they are not washing out.

Who's hiring with 250?

XJPILOT1 03-11-2007 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 132092)
Who's hiring with 250?

Pinnacle through a bridge with ERAU CAPT program.

sigep_nm 03-12-2007 12:22 AM

PNCL hired a UND guy with about that. But then again, thats pinnalce...dual engine flame outs are fun I guess.

SkyHigh 03-12-2007 06:20 AM

Horizon Air
 

Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 132155)
PNCL hired a UND guy with about that. But then again, thats pinnalce...dual engine flame outs are fun I guess.

Horizon Air hired a guy with around 250 back in 2000. He came from UND. Back in the 90's when I started you had to have over 2500 hours and some turbine time in order to be competitive at a regional. My plan is to wait until the majors drop below 1000 hours and strike.

SkyHigh

Cubdriver 03-12-2007 07:32 AM

Dassa spirit Sky... strike like a lion on his home turf. And don't forget about recency. Warm up at a regional a bit first to get your ducks in a row. Your never too old or too young.

RedBaron007 03-12-2007 09:42 AM

Upgrade times
 
I know this isn't quite the topic of this thread, but it does relate to where I might be interested in applying. I see on the airlines database on here that Piedmont has about a 6 year upgrade. Is that still an accurate number, and does it look like that number might change in the coming years? Thanks.


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