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jrav8r 11-09-2016 07:57 PM

Regional Hiring on Temporary Hold?
 
Heard through the grape vine that since the election is over, some regional's are halting hiring until an assessment of the next economic state is complete? Thoughts?

SMACFUM 11-09-2016 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by jrav8r (Post 2240887)
Heard through the grape vine that since the election is over, some regional's are halting hiring until an assessment of the next economic state is complete? Thoughts?

No. Filler.

Gearswinger 11-09-2016 11:29 PM

Yeah, they are trying to figure out who the morons who were shouting "Trump Train" on guard all day yesterday are so they can be fired. Expect hiring to pick up.

VIRotate 11-10-2016 01:24 AM

If anything you're going to start seeing airlines hire even more. Fall/Winter is when a lot of people leave. At my airline 30-40 guys were expected to leave next month.

prex8390 11-10-2016 03:47 AM

Endeavor has interviews scheduled for throughout the holidays

soakingpilot 11-10-2016 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Gearswinger (Post 2240916)
Yeah, they are trying to figure out who the morons who were shouting "Trump Train" on guard all day yesterday are so they can be fired. Expect hiring to pick up.

since most pilots are white male republicans I would figure they'll actually get a promotion

VoiceOfReason 11-10-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2240942)
Endeavor has interviews scheduled for throughout the holidays

And I saw that we're offering positive space travel to/from home for the holidays. Two December classes this would benefit.

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gloopy 11-10-2016 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by jrav8r (Post 2240887)
Heard through the grape vine that since the election is over, some regional's are halting hiring until an assessment of the next economic state is complete? Thoughts?

If this is a serious question, its one of the dumbest in the history of aviation. If its an attempt at trolling, I'd give it a B- maybe.

Avroman 11-10-2016 01:45 PM

The only place that shows basically no interest in hiring that I've heard of was ExpressJet. They are just letting it wilt while picking the fruit for SkyWest.

Chupacabras 11-10-2016 01:46 PM

I would say not at this time, nothing has really happened yet. If the new president in any way starts screwing with the economy, ripping up trade deals, etc., then we could see some slowdown in hiring at all carriers. Remember just how sensitive our industry is to business travel and bumps in the economy. If the "anti-regulation" president decides to roll back on: age 65, FAR 117, ATP rule, we could definitely also see a slowdown in hiring. A rollback of the ATP rule would certainly also rollback all of the new regional bonuses and compensation gains we have recently seen-supply and demand.

You can bet that the airlines will be knocking on doors to get regulation relief now that they have a more "business friendly" administration.

The new president is also not union friendly. Any small chance of a strike before is certainly impossible now. Even if approved, he'd certainly order pilots back to work as other presidents have. But I'm sure all in this industry who voted for him thought about all this before they cast their ballot. We'll just have to see what happens in a year or so.

dontcare4U 11-10-2016 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Gearswinger (Post 2240916)
Yeah, they are trying to figure out who the morons who were shouting "Trump Train" on guard all day yesterday are so they can be fired. Expect hiring to pick up.


Monitoring guard has become quite embarrassing (not because of the Trump Train)

N6279P 11-10-2016 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2241272)
The only place that shows basically no interest in hiring that I've heard of was ExpressJet. They are just letting it wilt while picking the fruit for SkyWest.

Completely innacurate.

AtlCSIP 11-11-2016 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2241272)
The only place that shows basically no interest in hiring that I've heard of was ExpressJet. They are just letting it wilt while picking the fruit for SkyWest.

Not true at all. We could take 50 per month.

No Lies 11-11-2016 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 2241685)
Not true at all. We could take 50 per month.

You could take 50 a month? How many are being added to the seniority list each month? How many are in the new hire classes each month?

If you post the wrong info, I will post the seniority lists for you. Please be accurate to the people looking for jobs and don't lie.

Aurora8 11-11-2016 01:19 PM

I would think hiring would pick up now that Clinton can't start a nuclear war with the Russians...:D

B200 Hawk 11-11-2016 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by soakingpilot (Post 2241220)
since most pilots are white male republicans I would figure they'll actually get a promotion

This. I have had to bite my tongue for 8 years. Can't wait to say "Thanks Trump" to everything. Sucks being a 2%er in aviation (not a neocon). Can't imagine those who aren't white males stuck in a cockpit with someone who won't **** about politics.

darkman62 11-11-2016 01:27 PM

I would say not at this time, nothing has really happened yet. If the new president in any way starts screwing with the economy, ripping up trade deals, etc., then we could see some slowdown in hiring at all carriers. Remember just how sensitive our industry is to business travel and bumps in the economy. If the "anti-regulation" president decides to roll back on: age 65, FAR 117, ATP rule, we could definitely also see a slowdown in hiring. A rollback of the ATP rule would certainly also rollback all of the new regional bonuses and compensation gains we have recently seen-supply and demand.

You can bet that the airlines will be knocking on doors to get regulation relief now that they have a more "business friendly" administration.

The new president is also not union friendly. Any small chance of a strike before is certainly impossible now. Even if approved, he'd certainly order pilots back to work as other presidents have. But I'm sure all in this industry who voted for him thought about all this before they cast their ballot. We'll just have to see what happens in a year or so.



Exacty but us genius pilots always vote for Presidents that go against our best interests.
We forget that we belong to a union work force and like to vote the anti union white guy in office.

4V14T0R 11-11-2016 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by darkman62 (Post 2241701)
I would say not at this time, nothing has really happened yet. If the new president in any way starts screwing with the economy, ripping up trade deals, etc., then we could see some slowdown in hiring at all carriers. Remember just how sensitive our industry is to business travel and bumps in the economy. If the "anti-regulation" president decides to roll back on: age 65, FAR 117, ATP rule, we could definitely also see a slowdown in hiring. A rollback of the ATP rule would certainly also rollback all of the new regional bonuses and compensation gains we have recently seen-supply and demand.



You can bet that the airlines will be knocking on doors to get regulation relief now that they have a more "business friendly" administration.



The new president is also not union friendly. Any small chance of a strike before is certainly impossible now. Even if approved, he'd certainly order pilots back to work as other presidents have. But I'm sure all in this industry who voted for him thought about all this before they cast their ballot. We'll just have to see what happens in a year or so.







Exacty but us genius pilots always vote for Presidents that go against our best interests.

We forget that we belong to a union work force and like to vote the anti union white guy in office.



We had a virtual zero chance of striking before. A zero chance now isn't a big deal to me. What is is the fact that a President Trump is 100 times better than a President Clinton (another one). This economy needs some real growth, not the same old tired policies that give anemic growth at best. We may be a union dominated industry and he may be anti-union but this job is not all I am. I fully believe he will provide a much better outcome than Hillary would have and that Obama has. What does Trump being white man have to do with it, by the way?


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skypine27 11-11-2016 04:27 PM

edited; decided to leave politics out of a hiring thread.

Bellanca 11-11-2016 06:01 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't hiring usually slow over the holidays? Training dept instructors want the holidays off, newhires will usually wait until an early January class date, understaffed companies might rather put instructors online to help with staffing during a high volume time, etc. For example, my company has only run one December newhire class the past two years, instead of the normal two per month.

Avroman 11-11-2016 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 2241685)
Not true at all. We could take 50 per month.

Sure you COULD... but your management won't pony up the pennies to compete, they'd rather transfer the airplanes to other companies and let you wither.:eek:

No Lies 11-11-2016 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2241846)
Sure you COULD... but your management won't pony up the pennies to compete, they'd rather transfer the airplanes to other companies and let you wither.:eek:

L-XJT did hire classes of 50 at one time about 5 years ago. Now they will not pay to hire anyone. They are putting up a good front of trying to hire, but they have even pulled down their bonus that they used to pay. They could hire 50, but don't want to or they would put their money where their mouth is. DFW ERJ pilot base is closing this coming year and EWR will be the next pilot base that will announced to close.

They announced today that their maintenance facility in SHV is closing. Happy Holidays.

DirkDiggler 11-11-2016 09:25 PM

They will have very rapid rate of attrition if they close EWR. Many people live in Jersey, Allentown, NY etc. I know I would never commute to any other base.

AtlCSIP 11-12-2016 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2241689)
You could take 50 a month? How many are being added to the seniority list each month? How many are in the new hire classes each month?

If you post the wrong info, I will post the seniority lists for you. Please be accurate to the people looking for jobs and don't lie.

I said we could take 50 per month, which is 100% true. Don't be one of those tools who tries to twist what other people say. The OP was asking if Regionals were going to suspend hiring. My "50 per month" statement was in response to that. It is accurate. The size of our seniority list and whether it is shrinking wasn't the question. Our current high attrition is one reason why we could take 50 a month. I did not lie.

I'm quite sure that company seniority lists are not to be posted publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if posting one would result in a law suit for you, as well as an inability to ever be hired anywhere else ever again. Don't be foolish.

AtlCSIP 11-12-2016 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2241846)
Sure you COULD... but your management won't pony up the pennies to compete, they'd rather transfer the airplanes to other companies and let you wither.:eek:

This is a different issue, and not the question asked by the OP.

For the record, and you can search my entire post history if you are that bored, I tell people looking for a job in the regional industry that in my OPINION, driving to work is the number 1 criteria for selecting a regional airline. This is because, from my observation, quality of life appears to be most important for most people. I still maintain that position, but it is an OPINION.

No Lies 11-12-2016 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2241272)
The only place that shows basically no interest in hiring that I've heard of was ExpressJet. They are just letting it wilt while picking the fruit for SkyWest.


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 2241685)
Not true at all. We could take 50 per month.


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 2241950)
I said we could take 50 per month, which is 100% true. Don't be one of those tools who tries to twist what other people say. The OP was asking if Regionals were going to suspend hiring. My "50 per month" statement was in response to that. It is accurate. The size of our seniority list and whether it is shrinking wasn't the question. Our current high attrition is one reason why we could take 50 a month. I did not lie.

I'm quite sure that company seniority lists are not to be posted publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if posting one would result in a law suit for you, as well as an inability to ever be hired anywhere else ever again. Don't be foolish.

You sound like a tool. You are twisting your own words or you don't remember what you wrote. You disagreed with a post that said the same thing as you just wrote ("Not true at all").

The responses that you seem to be upset with are the ones that just called you out on something that you said was wrong.

Skywest is not allowing XJT to hire. XJT will not offer enough money to hire anyone because of Skypest. When you insinuate that XJT is hiring 50 a month, people are going to correct you. XJT is putting on a show for their current employees that they are attempting to hire.

FYI, seniority lists are not SSI.


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