L-ASA (ExpressJet CRJ side)
#11
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
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OK, I'll bite. How did you catch wind of this?
#12
So what you are telling me is the recruiting department is lying about not hiring anyone during that time period.
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#13
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I was told as a volunteer of pilot-2-pilot, in addition it was on the MEC site for a short period of time. So this is a fact, not just a rumor. Waiting for the company response.
The union is meeting with the company on Monday to lay out the framework for a new contract for the CRJ side.
#14
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
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Not really a lie. That hiring period they are speaking about is for the ERJ, not the CRJ. As far as recruiting goes, they are unsure of someone is going to the CRJ or ERJ, so they will state a period that they know of on their own side (may be an ERJ pilot who responded as the recruiter).
We are working on a number of initiatives to improve our upgrade times, and we’ve already made improvements by allowing newly-upgraded captains to voluntarily fly as Fos. That allowed us to upgrade more, supported our operation and allowed new captains to fly more hours in both seats. Even with that, our new hires can expect to upgrade in four years or less. Some of our current pilots are experiencing much longer upgrades, but that won’t continue much longer. We didn’t hire between 2007-2011, during the economic downturn, and so we had a gap in upgrades too.
#15
Just doing some rough numbers here after yesterdays Memo from SkyWest Inc:
Expecting to remove 43% of L-ASA fleet in 2017. Therefore, 43% of L-ASA Seniority List could be sent packing:
The potential fallout:
Bottom 43% of L-ASA seniority list (roughly 86% of the three stripers on property) are now "bye bye!"
Top* 14% of First Officers at L-ASA will keep their jobs
Bottom* 43% of Captains at L-ASA will downgrade
Top* 57% of Captains at L-ASA will keep their seat.
* - Assuming a straight 50/50 split on the seniority list between CA and FO. But ASA has a large group of super senior FO's on the company wide seniority list who'll remain in the right seat. This will help "soon to be" super junior CA's keep their left seat.
In case you want to join me in looking back fondly on the promises they've made the last year to naive newbs joining the 121 world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6u2DgNJoUA
"Make the Smart Choice for your future, make ExpressJet your next step."
Expecting to remove 43% of L-ASA fleet in 2017. Therefore, 43% of L-ASA Seniority List could be sent packing:
The potential fallout:
Bottom 43% of L-ASA seniority list (roughly 86% of the three stripers on property) are now "bye bye!"
Top* 14% of First Officers at L-ASA will keep their jobs
Bottom* 43% of Captains at L-ASA will downgrade
Top* 57% of Captains at L-ASA will keep their seat.
* - Assuming a straight 50/50 split on the seniority list between CA and FO. But ASA has a large group of super senior FO's on the company wide seniority list who'll remain in the right seat. This will help "soon to be" super junior CA's keep their left seat.
In case you want to join me in looking back fondly on the promises they've made the last year to naive newbs joining the 121 world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6u2DgNJoUA
"Make the Smart Choice for your future, make ExpressJet your next step."
#16
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Reclined seat
Posts: 629
Just doing some rough numbers here after yesterdays Memo from SkyWest Inc:
Expecting to remove 43% of L-ASA fleet in 2017. Therefore, 43% of L-ASA Seniority List could be sent packing:
The potential fallout:
Bottom 43% of L-ASA seniority list (roughly 86% of the three stripers on property) are now "bye bye!"
Top* 14% of First Officers at L-ASA will keep their jobs
Bottom* 43% of Captains at L-ASA will downgrade
Top* 57% of Captains at L-ASA will keep their seat.
* - Assuming a straight 50/50 split on the seniority list between CA and FO. But ASA has a large group of super senior FO's on the company wide seniority list who'll remain in the right seat. This will help "soon to be" super junior CA's keep their left seat.
In case you want to join me in looking back fondly on the promises they've made the last year to naive newbs joining the 121 world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6u2DgNJoUA
"Make the Smart Choice for your future, make ExpressJet your next step."
Expecting to remove 43% of L-ASA fleet in 2017. Therefore, 43% of L-ASA Seniority List could be sent packing:
The potential fallout:
Bottom 43% of L-ASA seniority list (roughly 86% of the three stripers on property) are now "bye bye!"
Top* 14% of First Officers at L-ASA will keep their jobs
Bottom* 43% of Captains at L-ASA will downgrade
Top* 57% of Captains at L-ASA will keep their seat.
* - Assuming a straight 50/50 split on the seniority list between CA and FO. But ASA has a large group of super senior FO's on the company wide seniority list who'll remain in the right seat. This will help "soon to be" super junior CA's keep their left seat.
In case you want to join me in looking back fondly on the promises they've made the last year to naive newbs joining the 121 world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6u2DgNJoUA
"Make the Smart Choice for your future, make ExpressJet your next step."
#17
I can only assume total pilot staffing will also drop by 43% as they shift staffing levels for 2018. Hence the numbers posted above. I'd love to know where your 31% came from.
And you're correct, there will be MASSIVE attrition now. But I wouldn't count on it coming from the lifer CA's who occupy the top 28% of the seniority list who'll keep their CA seat when 2018 arrives.
#18
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 774
Just doing some rough numbers here after yesterdays Memo from SkyWest Inc:
Expecting to remove 43% of L-ASA fleet in 2017. Therefore, 43% of L-ASA Seniority List could be sent packing:
The potential fallout:
Bottom 43% of L-ASA seniority list (roughly 86% of the three stripers on property) are now "bye bye!"
Top* 14% of First Officers at L-ASA will keep their jobs
Bottom* 43% of Captains at L-ASA will downgrade
Top* 57% of Captains at L-ASA will keep their seat.
* - Assuming a straight 50/50 split on the seniority list between CA and FO. But ASA has a large group of super senior FO's on the company wide seniority list who'll remain in the right seat. This will help "soon to be" super junior CA's keep their left seat.
In case you want to join me in looking back fondly on the promises they've made the last year to naive newbs joining the 121 world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6u2DgNJoUA
"Make the Smart Choice for your future, make ExpressJet your next step."
Expecting to remove 43% of L-ASA fleet in 2017. Therefore, 43% of L-ASA Seniority List could be sent packing:
The potential fallout:
Bottom 43% of L-ASA seniority list (roughly 86% of the three stripers on property) are now "bye bye!"
Top* 14% of First Officers at L-ASA will keep their jobs
Bottom* 43% of Captains at L-ASA will downgrade
Top* 57% of Captains at L-ASA will keep their seat.
* - Assuming a straight 50/50 split on the seniority list between CA and FO. But ASA has a large group of super senior FO's on the company wide seniority list who'll remain in the right seat. This will help "soon to be" super junior CA's keep their left seat.
In case you want to join me in looking back fondly on the promises they've made the last year to naive newbs joining the 121 world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6u2DgNJoUA
"Make the Smart Choice for your future, make ExpressJet your next step."
#20
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 736
I believe WMU's numbers are a little closer to the truth. I've heard that there will be thirty-two CRJ-200's leaving from Delta flying for L-ASA. I haven't checked the APC numbers, but you're more than likely assuming that all of the CRJ-200's listed were flying for Delta. That is inaccurate. Twelve (or thirteen) along with a spare are flying for American. Subtract those from the forty-six number and you get closer to thirty-two.
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