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#212
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Babs is correct as is the date I posted. The last pilot selected out of the 824 was the date I posted...the person accepted the flow and was put into the pool as of yesterday. While the end of the 824 as projected is as babs wrote...approx Sep 04.
What some of the simple minded folds like ag, is that there were years where there was 0 hiring; thus flow (and upgrades) are currently dropping dramatically because of the leaps of years where there was little to no hiring. Like once we push through the 2011 new hires for upgrades the actual upgrade time will fall dramatically.
What some of the simple minded folds like ag, is that there were years where there was 0 hiring; thus flow (and upgrades) are currently dropping dramatically because of the leaps of years where there was little to no hiring. Like once we push through the 2011 new hires for upgrades the actual upgrade time will fall dramatically.
Some people have no common sense and have trouble with math and facts. That's pretty apparent here in this thread.
#214
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Even dacuj, who also claims to be a 2006 hire, accidentally admitted he expects to go in 2018. It would take a large amount of extra flows over the contractual minimum to get through all of the 2006 hires this year. I'm hoping I go before June 2018 now.
#215
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This. Simple minded fools is an accurate statement. The dramatic dropping of upgrade and flow is already in progress. The math is all right there in the projections. Where the final numbers are listed on Envoyair.
Some people have no common sense and have trouble with math and facts. That's pretty apparent here in this thread.
Some people have no common sense and have trouble with math and facts. That's pretty apparent here in this thread.
#216
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While this is technically true, recently I think they've kept the pool to a month or two, I believe so there is time to finish paperwork involved.
#217
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Help deciding airframe & base
Thank you for the good info guys.I understand I should stay away from CRJs & 145 ORD & DFW will offer most flying & 145 LGA will be shortest reserve.
Follow up questions;
Keeping in mind that I will start training end of Jan meaning I hit the line in 7-9 weeks after that;
How long can I expect to sit reserve if I chose 145ORD or 145DFW ?
Also if the 145LGA is a shorter reserve ( any guesses on how much will that be ) will I be able to fly more by picking up some flying on my day offs once I can hold line ?
Follow up questions;
Keeping in mind that I will start training end of Jan meaning I hit the line in 7-9 weeks after that;
How long can I expect to sit reserve if I chose 145ORD or 145DFW ?
Also if the 145LGA is a shorter reserve ( any guesses on how much will that be ) will I be able to fly more by picking up some flying on my day offs once I can hold line ?
#218
Thank you for the good info guys.I understand I should stay away from CRJs & 145 ORD & DFW will offer most flying & 145 LGA will be shortest reserve.
Follow up questions;
Keeping in mind that I will start training end of Jan meaning I hit the line in 7-9 weeks after that;
How long can I expect to sit reserve if I chose 145ORD or 145DFW ?
Also if the 145LGA is a shorter reserve ( any guesses on how much will that be ) will I be able to fly more by picking up some flying on my day offs once I can hold line ?
Follow up questions;
Keeping in mind that I will start training end of Jan meaning I hit the line in 7-9 weeks after that;
How long can I expect to sit reserve if I chose 145ORD or 145DFW ?
Also if the 145LGA is a shorter reserve ( any guesses on how much will that be ) will I be able to fly more by picking up some flying on my day offs once I can hold line ?
NY temds to be more junior, there is a bid that could see 25 to 50 FO leave NY to DFW and possibly ORD. The place that is the shortest path to a line today might not be tomorrow.
Example, the last E75 line holder is likely on the pipeline already, there are only 25 to 35 current FO on that equipment that will see an upgrade in the next 2 years, so those heading into the E75 will be junior for a while unless the fleet grows.
Example, Ny the base is growing and junior. Likely to see movement as people shift but with ORD slated to shrink and if not backfilled for those whom are leaving the folks junior in ORD will be junior for a while, today ORD E45 is the fastest line on the E45.
Example, DFW E45, longest path to a line on the E45, however the status Just posted a vacancy for FO and has been backfilled the last couple of bids.
Example, CRJ, fleet shrinking and could see little movement but a delay in the transfers for whatever reason would see this change.
If you commute vs live in base makes a big difference in OT pick up. If you live in NY but 2 hours away and the construction in LGA is much different than living in DFW. Not to sound repetitive, but based your equipment and base on where do you want to be away from work and hopefully is available or on an equipment that could get you there.
#220
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